Bryan Johnson vs. 20 Skeptics @Jubilee

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0:00 Hi, as requested, I'm gonna be reviewing the video called Brian Johnson versus 20 skeptics.

[video] 0:07 My name is Brian Johnson. I've spent millions of dollars trying to reverse and slow down my biological aging. I've also swapped blood with my son. Today, I'm surrounded by 20 anti-aging skeptics.

0:17 It's funny that he mentions that.

[video] 0:23 My first claim, ending death, should be humanity's number one objective.

0:32 I'm not even gonna say what I think about that.

[video] 0:40 Nice to meet you. How you doing? I'm doing well. First off, I want to say thank you so much for being here. I'm super honored to get the chance to talk to you. I hope this can be an opportunity where I can learn, where you can learn, and where we can teach the audience something. I'm not trying to prove you wrong, but I also don't want to misconstrue your words. So why do you think ending death should be humanity's top priority? Because I think this moment we live in is really special. We are giving birth to super intelligence. We all know that AI is moving very quickly, and we don't quite know what exactly it is, but it's big and it's fast. And so the suggestion that I have is that in this moment, when we're giving birth to superintelligence, that we are wise to transition our focus from a world where we value death to one where we say we are the first generation who will die. That basically we're saying we value existence.

1:19 Is he saying that AI is superintelligence? That's really funny. That's such an unintelligent thing to say.

[video] 1:30 It's above all other things. So it's basically a contemplation of if you're human on planet Earth in this part of the galaxy, what does intelligent life do when you're giving birth to superintelligence? We say existence. That is the number one thing we care about. Right, so you have a faith in AI to get us to reach the point where we can avoid death. And I would say there's no concrete evidence right now that we have that, that we can end death. You're kind of basing that off of the empirical data and the studies regarding AI's progression, is that correct? That's correct.

1:55 He believes that health and longevity comes from new technology.

[video] 2:01 So I've heard you say before that religion is a thing created to kind of make death okay and make the idea of death not as scary and that humans are very clever. Wouldn't you say that your faith in AI's progression to end death is kind of that same argument, that same faith, just to avoid death as a whole? Yeah, it's a good point. So what I say is that humans have always died. Up until this point, there's an end of life. And when end of life happens, people have been coming up with reasons of why it's a good thing for hundreds of thousands of years. So the idea may be you'll be reincarnated, maybe there's a heaven, maybe that you will achieve immortality in what you do and you'll be remembered for your deeds as a soldier or an entrepreneur or a poet or a politician. And so people have always sought a form of immortality in deed or in this life or the afterlife. And so what I'm saying is this is actually the first time in human history where a reasonable person could say, we may be the first generation who won't die and not be left out of the room. Now, you're right. There is no evidence we can actually do it. But, you know, some biological species like species of the jellyfish and the hydra have achieved immortality.

[video] 2:59 So we know biology has solved for immortality, just not in human species, but it has been solved for. Right. So kind of to shift the topic a little bit, that is also based off the assumption that death is a bad thing, because we don't know if death is a good thing. And I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong about the creations of religion, but we can't kind of make that decision ourselves whether death is a good or bad thing. I would say the creation of religion, if it is based off of a fear, it's less based off a fear of death and more based off of a fear of the unknown. And I would say that that's kind of two sides of the same coin when. We're running away from death and we're trying to do everything we can to avoid death, but that's just because we don't know. What would you say about that? Yeah, I'm saying that the reason why I would identify defeating death as humanity...

3:36 It's interesting that Brian believes that religions were created because people are afraid of death. Nobody in nature is afraid of death. Have you ever heard anybody in a natural tribe say that they are afraid of death?

3:55 They don't even think about it. Only modern people think about it. And religious people are afraid of death in the sense that they are afraid that they will do something wrong or sinful. And of course if they do, then they go to hell or something bad happens.

[video] 4:18 Number one objective is because we have embraced it as part of our daily lives. When somebody stays up late and misses their bedtime, when they eat a pint of ice cream before bed, when they get very drunk, when they smoke cigarettes, when they eat toxic foods, those things are a form of death. When companies that make addictive algorithms, that make addictive foods, when they make those things, they're profiting off of your death. And so what I'm saying is we have built a world built on the profit of death and on people seeking death. That's the environment in which we're giving birth to superintelligence. That's what I'm identifying is that's the danger. We don't want to bring in our new computer companions, our new AI companions and say, we are a species that values death. We want to say we are a species that values existence. Right. So I've heard you say before, I think Lester Green said this and you said this, that existence is the highest virtue. And I would argue that a positive existence is the highest virtue. And that would mean that our top priority should then be ending suffering so that we can promote a good and enjoyable life rather than just avoiding death. Yeah, the challenge with saying a positive existence is that...

5:18 It's interesting that I believe pretty much the opposite of what they both say. But it's understandable, they have a slave mindset.

[video] 5:27 Your version of positive may be different than someone else's positive. And when two humans agree on their versions of a given idea, they typically kill each other. Or it results in very serious violence. And so don't die is actually the single thing that every human on the planet can agree to every second of every day. Everyone agrees, don't die right now. But I would argue that it's not about not dying because why people have that feeling is because there's an urgency to live tomorrow because we die. I would argue that urgency comes out of the fact that our life ends. And that's why we want to continue to live is because we have that endpoint. And that's why tomorrow matters so much. And I want to exist tomorrow. If death didn't exist, then we may not have that same feeling of I want to exist tomorrow. Many people have looked back through history and you see that there are ideas about reality of things that people wanted to do.

6:06 Nobody in nature thinks about tomorrow. There is no perception of time.

6:14 Slaves have time in their delusional minds. In nature, you live in the moment. You're happy, that's all that you need. This moment, seeing as that's all that exists anyway. Everything else you imagine, you look forward to. But you say that, although at the same time, Do you look forward to it really if you're not even enjoying the moment right now? What is your life based on then if you're always thinking about the future? Are you really looking forward to something else or do you simply cannot stand the life that you have in the moment?

[video] 6:59 Hi, Brian. My name is Chelsea Gods. And I sit across from you today. I think I'm going to say the thing that a lot of people in the circle are thinking. It's easy when you're rich to care about not dying. Most people spend all day every day also caring about not dying because they're living paycheck to paycheck. 60% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. Being poor is the story of humanity across the whole globe. I think listening to him.

7:22 I know what she means, but it still has to be said that there's no such thing as poor or rich people seeing as money doesn't exist. There's no such thing as billionaires, millionaires. It's all an illusion. Brian Johnson doesn't have any money. The other people also don't just look at them. Actually look at what's going on in the sexual physical reality for our video. Obviously it's fake, but you get what I mean. Is there actually a difference?

8:01 Can you see that he's a billionaire or almost, which is what he would say? No, because there's no such thing.

[video] 8:11 A man who doesn't know what it's like, how he's going to make rent next month. That to some of us, it feels pretty strange to hear you tell us that we're not focused on being alive. I think every person here is struggling to be alive every single day.

8:25 Yes, but you're not struggling to be alive. You're struggling as a slave in the system because you were born into it. I understand why you ended up there, but you're not trying to live. That's not living. You cannot live in the system as a slave. It chains around you.

[video] 8:50 She's very emotional, over the top. There's something not right.

[video] 9:09 has said that you eat pureed food every day. And you're telling me, a normal human being, who is like everyone else, struggling financially and whatnot, how I should be living my life. And I think there's something that's really disconnected about that. I also think that it's really false of you to claim that people are focusing their life on dying, when really all of us are focusing on surviving. That's why we're... Here. Every one of us is here today because we're surviving. We don't go to McDonald's and think, oh, this is killing me. We go to McDonald's because we don't have enough time in the day to make dinner. Because we can't afford to go to the grocery store and buy a $20 steak.

9:42 Just eat naturally. Eat raw meat. No need for preparation. Then again, you wouldn't have the money to buy good meat. I understand that. You can always hunt, uh... It depends on where you live.

[video] 10:00 Because we can't shop at Air One and get $40 of strawberries, you know? So I think a lot of us are here wondering, what does you, a pretty...

10:07 Yes, because strawberries are healthy. They're not bad, but it's just some berries.

[video] 10:14 ...who's rich, who doesn't know what struggle is like, and who also talks about the fact that you use your own son's blood, have to add to us as humanity. Yeah. Hi, Chelsea. Hey. Yeah, I grew up with four other siblings, a single mom. My mother made my clothes because we didn't have enough money for her to buy clothes for me. I went to school and I got made fun of because my clothes didn't fit and they were awkward. I didn't have money my entire life. I became an entrepreneur. I struggled for 14 years with no money whatsoever. So I understand what it feels like to have no money. I didn't know what it feels like to be poor. So I've been through that. I also was chronically depressed for 10 years. I wanted to commit suicide desperately. I really would have committed suicide had it not been for my three kids. I felt like I had a responsibility to them. So I understand struggle. I understand pain. I was 50 pounds overweight. I was in a terrible shape. And so I understand what it's like to be that way. My argument is not to criticize you or anyone else.

[video] 11:02 What I'm arguing is that companies have built their products to make you addicted and to make you ill. That's the core thing I'm trying to say is that the most powerful economic engine in all of history, the American economic engine, has pointed its...

11:15 He's right, and there is no actual excuse to eat actual real junk food.

11:42 At least he doesn't deny it. That's nice.

[video] 11:56 Yeah, and I think that a lot of people would change their opinion and want to exist if the conditions of society were not so brutal. It's not fair. But what have you done to change those brutal conditions in society? You're a person who has literally hundreds of millions of dollars, and you spend $2 million every year trying to look younger. And honestly, you look your age. Like, that's the reality. And I'm not even the first person to say that. So what are you doing to make humanity better, really, other than pursuing your own vanity? Yeah, well, I share everything I learn from all the scientific evidence with everybody for free. But it's scientific evidence from your own body, right? So the study isn't terribly useful to the general population because a black woman isn't going to have the same biometrics as a 48-year-old white man. So, I mean, in some ways, it's kind of a selfish pursuit that you're trying to make it seem like it's altruistic. I feel like that's the disingenuous part of this conversation is that you're coming at it from an argument of altruism, but I see it, and I think a lot of people in this room today see it as selfishness.

12:41 Usually he looks older than he is in this specific video.

12:51 They did a good job with the makeup. He has some kind of oil on his face. The hair is dyed.

13:05 He always shaves. He tries to look as young as possible. Then you have the Botox and whatnot, the plastic surgeries, which he doesn't deny. But that has nothing to do with health or even anti-aging. You're just faking the way your skin looks like for the most part, which is how we usually tell if somebody looks old. The dark eye circles are still visible, even with the makeup. Without the makeup, they would be insane. Obviously, he tried to look as good as possible for the video.

[video] 13:44 and greed to try and hold on to life as much as you can, so much so that you bragged about using your teenage son's blood, which I have to tell you, history is not going to be kind about that. Nobody thinks about that woman in the Turkish royalty who bathed in handmaidens' blood and has a positive feeling about that. I don't think anyone is going to read about you in the future and be like, oh, wasn't that great? Wasn't that awesome that Brian Johnson used his own teenage son's blood to make himself younger? No one's going to feel that way. So two things. One is the evidence is based upon population level evidence. It's not on Brian Johnson. It's not 48 year old males. It's population level evidence where you can make conclusions like seven to eight hours a night of sleep is good for. And that's something that rich people get to do and poor people don't get to do. You think rich people are working overnight shifts? They're not. Yeah. You need to give me a little space to respond. Sure. Of course. Okay. So you did the other thing you're saying about my son's blood. So the reason that came about is my father is now in his early seventies. He has cognitive decline. Instead of eating what you're naturally supposed to eat, simply drinking blood, eating raw meat, they do this.

[video] 14:56 It's actually pretty interesting how in our society it's normal to inject blood, especially if there's a life-threatening injury.

15:18 But when it comes to drinking blood, it's strange. But at the same time, it saves lives. Human blood. Interesting, huh? Are you happy?

[video] 15:30 I've never been happier in my entire life. And that is a genuine answer.

15:36 Usually if you say that it's genuine, then you are really trying to highlight that, which means that it's actually not so. In his case, I don't believe it anyway. It doesn't matter what he says. Because he always looks depressed, as if he has no energy, he doesn't look healthy.

16:00 There's no reason for me to believe that he's happy.

[video] 16:04 I really want to be with you on this. I wish somebody would have been in my life to say, let me give you some basic tips on how to achieve good sleep, how to avoid bad foods, how to have the willpower to do these things. I didn't have that in my life. And that's really the role I'm trying to play in people's lives is the good friend that is there to encourage them to make good life choices. Got it.

16:22 Yes, and then they buy your supplements. Those super overpriced toxic powders that you sell. Obviously, it's also business to him. And if you see him as a friend, then it's even better because it's as if you're buying all of that from your friend, your online buddy.

[video] 16:42 I saw that you had some data where you were like, I have like the lungs of a 30-something-year-old or the heart of a 20, right? Can you elaborate first on what... that specific thing that I'm talking about?

16:53 Yeah. Those measurements are nonsense. Cannot be proven.

[video] 16:58 The idea is that if you have a 90-year-old person next to a 10-year-old person, you know who's 90 and who's 10. Sure. Based on the quality of their skin and their general mobility. And so there's an idea of biological age and chronological age. And so, for example, I'm 48, but my left ear is age 64. Why your left ear? Is that just an example? Example, yeah, exactly. So I have mild to moderate hearing loss in my left ear because I listened to loud music as a kid and I also shot guns.

17:21 This doesn't make sense because he's talking about the deterioration of the body, not aging. But people always confuse this.

[video] 17:30 Hearing protection. And so that dramatically ages my left ear. So everything I talk about, I'm trying to say, like, if you do blank...

17:37 Your ear is damaged. It didn't age. It's not as if you injure yourself and then that part of your body ages. It's injured. How can people confuse this?

[video] 17:51 Fast food companies have used the best science to create the perfectly addictive food with the right amount of fats, proteins and sugars. It hits a peak dopamine moment in the brain. So they are...

18:03 It's not really so much that. There's actual drugs, addictive chemicals in those so-called foods.

[video] 18:11 I think encouraging people to spend a significant portion of their time being stressed about their diet is actually counterintuitive to what you claim to be a proponent for, which is life. Because I think constantly being worried about every single thing that we put in our bodies can actually have really negative impacts on our psyche and our well-being. And as a person who, again, spent 17 years reading the ingredients of everything, pouring over what was in a package that I was eating, I can tell you that the freedom that I feel not having to think about that is actually wonderful. And do I like fast food? Hell yeah, I do. Do I eat it all the time? No. I think that moderation is an important part of life. So not only do I think that there's like a classist part of this, I also think there's an enjoyment part of this. And in some ways, I know that you've been told by other people that you don't live your life. And I kind of agree. I think you spend most of your life being worried about a lot of things. I think you wake up in the morning being worried about being old. You wake up in the morning being worried about what you put in your body. You puree your food and eat it like a baby. And people don't want to do that. You know what I do want to do, though? Sometimes eat a freaking chicken sandwich from the drive-thru. I just think thinking about your food all the time.

19:08 Wanting to eat food right away, so-called fast food, is normal because that's how it would be in nature. You hunt down an animal and you eat it raw. That's why people like it.

[video] 19:20 The time is negative. Do you think it's negative? So first, I hope it feels good to vent. I don't think I'm venting. I think that I'm like being direct. I think, I mean, you are being direct. I understand your anger. I don't think I'm being angry. I think that that's like you saying that because I'm a direct and loud woman.

19:36 She's pretty angry. She's pretty miserable. She came here to let her emotions out.

[video] 19:44 I think that's actually a really rude generalization. Okay. What I'm saying is I have been in those circumstances and I don't buy the hypothesis that eating poison makes you happy. I don't think it makes the body happy. I think if you were to actually measure the body, I think the body would complain that it doesn't like getting...

20:00 He's right, but he takes tons of pills and eats a vegan diet.

20:07 What he eats is, for the most part, worse than what most people eat today, the fast food.

[video] 20:14 I do believe you watch this movie, Leave to 100, Secrets of the Blue Zone, and one important thing that connects... Absolute propaganda. All these people from different parts of the world, it's a social connection. So don't you think it's eating the burger with the friends at two... The salad is worse anyway, because you at least have meat when you eat a burger, and if you're together with people, then it's even better.

20:50 What's even better than that is going hunting with a bunch of guys, and then you hunt down the animal, slaughter it, you all drink the blood, eat the organs. None of this is good anyway in this slave system. What time's the salad?

[video] 21:09 it doesn't matter yeah kind of healthy salad yeah yeah there's no such thing yeah social connection is it's like a one of the superpowers of a wonderful life i agree with that yeah and so this is this goes back this idea that um i don't think there's any law of physics that says you can only connect with your friends at 2am when you're both intoxicated you know like you can definitely connect in the morning you can get in the evenings and so again these are really products of our cultural norms today

21:38 He has a good point. People go out drinking with their friends, believing that they are having a good time. Of course, it's nonsense, but that's accepted. It's not that normal today to go to a park.

21:59 sunbathe together or just do whatever in the sun, just chill, play some music. Of course it's all part of the system, but it's better than getting drunk.

[video] 22:14 They don't have to be true. We can change our schedule. For example, we do morning dance parties with friends. They're just as fun as 10 p.m. dance parties. So you can actually change norms and think about these differently. It's just that I think we feel stuck in the way things are with expectations from our friends. When I don't participate in those things, the accusation is I don't live life. So I think we can live lives that are healthy and still have reasonable health habits.

22:37 sure except that he doesn't understand what health is health is nature it's you listening to your intuition and the people in the blue zones are healthy because they eat animal-based diets they eat a lot of raw meat also tons of fat and yes they are in the sun they have families they don't live alone that's also all good but it's the food in the first place and that they both ignore they talk about fast food or salads when it's none of that so i think fast food isn't a problem relationship with the food is yeah

23:13 that makes no sense so we have a bunch of research and let's just change the relationship with the poisonous food let's just imagine that broccoli and lentils will make you healthy and that you will have a long lifespan let's just try to change it in our heads let's ignore this physical natural reality let's uh Go beyond that.

[video] 23:44 That's what people believe today experiments when the people eat fast food and they stay in the calorie deficit and they decrease the body fat percentage and

23:56 That's what they always talk about, body fat. Yeah, it's a little bit important. It's just an indicator of what you're eating. But how is it going to help? You eat garbage and that's why you will get sick. You will suffer anyway. It doesn't matter if you lose the extra fat.

[video] 24:19 and the cholesterol level, does it mean fast food isn't bad? What do you think? Yeah, I think if you look at the ingredients of fast food, there's a lot of evidence to suggest it really could be very harmful. In fact, it could potentially contribute to some of the worst human diseases. And so it is, I don't think it's a good idea under any circumstance to eat fast food. And I think it's something we should collectively agree as a society, we don't want it anymore.

24:46 That's pretty good, but eating seeds and plants and taking 100 pills is even worse. That was quick.

[video] 24:57 Gotcha. How you doing? I'm good. How you doing? Good to see you. So the claim is that sleep should be everyone's number one priority. Where does that factor in foundationally? With water.

25:09 yeah because you can live a long time with no sleep but i don't think you can live a week without water yeah so when we if you're gonna go even one day without sleeping you're gonna be suffering a lot two days it's torture you could go two days without water He probably also means other kind of liquids. I've gone 11 months without drinking water. Of course, I drank fruit juices, for example. And right now, I haven't had water in months. It's very rare that I drink it. But if he means liquids in general, then you could still go days without it. It's not gonna be fun, but it wouldn't be as bad as going without sleep.

[video] 26:14 You basically are acknowledging that good, healthy habits are good ideas for every outcome, that you feel better, like you want to work harder, that you have more willpower. These things are just intuitive, they're obvious, and we all...

26:28 It's interesting that he says intuitive, even though in other videos he has said that he doesn't listen to his intuition. He listens to the advice from the people around him, the science and whatnot, the fake science, obviously, pseudoscience.

[video] 26:49 We want them, but society puts so much pressure on us to do these things and get us to be addicted to these things. It's very hard for us to have the self-control today.

26:57 yes you should live intuitively you should also not have any self-control that's counter-intuitive the very definition of it and if you live intuitively then you will be healthy which he doesn't do he's contradicting himself a lot here not do them so i'm arguing that society is structured in a way to kill us

[video] 27:20 That is a bad thing. And the people who suffer the most are those without resources. And I'm arguing that they are in a bad spot. This is not a good situation. So I'm really trying to be the best advocate that this is not a good situation. We should stop doing this. Rich and poor, whatever nation, it is the single thing that humans want. Nobody wants to die right now. And that's what I'm trying to say. This is not about immortality. It's not about 50 years in the future. It's not about the rich getting immortality. This is about every human on the planet saying, we value being alive right now. It acknowledges human dignity and human existence at the most.

27:49 This is so absolutely delusional, completely goes against nature.

[video] 27:56 It's the most friendly ideology where it says you can be Christian and don't die, you can be Muslim and don't die, you can be capitalist and don't die, socialist and don't die, Chinese and don't die. You can be anything you want and don't die. It says we as a species lock in and say this is our stand. We are not going to accept this. But why is death such a negative thing that we shouldn't ever get to that point? Because you don't know and I don't know what happens after death, even though some people believe that they know. Aren't we then, because we are afraid of it, because I'm afraid, I assume you're a little bit afraid to die, but we don't know what it is. We don't know if it's a negative or a positive. So by avoiding it, aren't we depriving ourselves of that experience of death? Yeah, so I'm not afraid of death. And, you know, if somebody wants to die, that's their prerogative and totally cool. The problem is, when the concept of death is part of society, people build things that cause other people to die. That's the problem.

28:41 And so do we... Right, it could be that we ourselves are doing all of that, or that other people may be doing some things... Maybe it's not us choosing that.

[video] 29:02 want to introduce superintelligence to our world and say, we are a species that thinks it's cool to do things that cause other intelligent species to die. I don't think that's the move. I don't think we want that part of our society. I don't think we want that to happen. I agree. And I would say, although with great power, obviously it becomes great responsibility and you are a big influencer and you have a lot of influence on people's decisions. So saying things like that, like we shouldn't motivate people to eat unhealthy, like we shouldn't generally eat fast food. I can agree with that. I think specifically there are problems with that claim. I would push back on that a little bit because things like food deserts exist. where people don't have access to healthy food. People don't have transportation to healthy food. And while I think it is true, people should eat healthy and they probably will feel better if they eat healthy.

29:40 Nobody in that room understands what health is, what healthy food looks like. They talked about salads, plants, as if humans in nature would eat that. And those are all man-made plants anyway. They don't even exist in nature. Those people were pretty delusional for the most part. Brian Johnson is of course always mentally living somewhere else in a different reality, but the others were not much better, even though those were supposed to be the skeptics. They don't understand what a healthy so-called lifestyle looks like. The more natural your life is, the healthier it will be. Obviously, as a slave living in captivity, you cannot do what you naturally want to do and that's why you cannot be optimally healthy, but at least we can get pretty good food.

30:41 It depends on where you live, but that's still possible for the most part. Although that's also changing when it comes to doing what you naturally want to do. You can pretty much forget about it for the most part. Brian Johnson... isn't gonna live a long and healthy life his life is already not healthy i don't believe that he's happy i just don't buy it i've reviewed a lot of his videos and you can see that it's fake everything about him His looks are fake, the makeup, the effects on the videos. And I understand why he does that, especially from a business perspective. But if you actually want people to be healthy, which is what he talked about throughout the whole video, then it doesn't make sense.

31:37 then you should be showing exactly what your lifestyle is doing to you. And then people would take you seriously. You wouldn't look healthy if you would actually show people how you really look like. And then people wouldn't buy your supplements. They wouldn't take you seriously. But maybe some people would sort of respect you for actually showing what this blueprint unnatural diet has done to you. but you're not doing that and uh in the end it's gonna fail and it 100 will it's already failing anyway but in the end people will see that and then i will stand there saying i told you so thanks for watching