JAILED for Eating Meat @ Soho Vegan Market - London, UK

Watch on YouTube · 2019-04-04 · 55 min

[video] 0:01 Where's the sign? If someone could take a picture they can give to me, that'd be pretty sweet. Who would like to hold the sign? Anybody? I can hold it.

[video] 0:20 actually quite like that you've got your tongue out like you're ready

[video] 0:53 You can hold the sign here, where they buy it.

[video] 1:16 Yeah, the organs are also in. Let's see, he might want it for Manchester. What does it taste like?

[video] 1:32 What do you mean? Are you going to have this one later? Yeah, you want to keep it or what? No, I mean, I was going to eat it if you don't mind. Yeah, eat it. So you wanted it for a different time? No, no, I'll be eating this after. At the other event. Okay.

[video] 1:55 I wouldn't eat anything that was gold, by the way. All the yellow stuff is going to be bitter. It's all going to be bitter. So you want to buy it, yeah? Are you going to eat it too?

[video] 2:14 Are you trying to prove something? What do you mean? I just want to raise awareness because veganism is malnutrition. There's over 50 nutritionists. So what are you trying to prove? Yeah, just a pun. I eat from it every day. But it doesn't prove anything. No, this does. What does? Veganism is malnutrition. You can't get over 50 nutritionists or plants. But I eat raw animals anyway. So what are you trying to do now? Are you excited to eat that? Yeah. Which bit are you going to eat? It smells good. No, it doesn't smell good, surely not. You've got a tiny bit of... You've got a tiny bit of spiral on your nose. It's the hair. There you go.

[video] 3:11 I love how everyone just looks at you. Wow. Off all of that, please go out. Let's eat it to rip it out. Which bits can... There are bits you won't eat. The stomach and the gallbladder is pointless. Why? What do they taste like? Just for one thing, I don't even know what they eat.

[video] 3:28 So that's the stomach? The liver is fat, yeah. This is the stomach. Okay, but why does it have to be raw? I generally draw meat. That's just what I eat. But why does it have to be raw? Because you lose the nutrients by cooking it. Yeah, that's all out now.

[video] 3:45 The only thing is you watch out that you don't rip the gallbladder open. There's a lot of things. I interview ex-vegans on my channel. Yeah, it's beautiful. Digestive issues, like all of them start all the time. They really sting. They get bloating and so on. So that's very difficult. Just tired all the time.

[video] 4:12 Eat animal fats, don't die!

[video] 4:28 Good one. Because I didn't eat meat for 20 years and I nearly died and thousands of other people are in the same boat. And at the moment the government and a lot of big corporations are pushing veganism and saying it's completely healthy at all stages of life, which is false. We evolved for millions of years on animal products. And so it's a fallacy that we can suddenly eat just plants. So that's basically it. And there's no one standing up. Stinky, yeah. There's no one standing up for these bats. I just, I don't know which part is this. I eat meat every day. Well done. You don't need to do this here. But it's a vegan market. But it's here we have to do it. I don't really want to smell this shit. I don't want to smell this shit. Well, yeah, the smell's an added benefit. It wasn't the plan.

[video] 5:22 I got your milk, bro. Yeah, he was vegan. He only now started... I'm the poster boy, man. Yeah, he started veganism in Australia. Like, he started veganism. And he got super sick. I've healed the love. It's only three months since the carnival. So, I am a good example. That one was worse than this four months ago, much worse. Sorry, bro, did you enjoy all your business? I did, yeah, it was 15 years. Can you go just a bit forward? Can you go there? Because I'm walking here. Sorry, you disturbed me, guys. Do you really want to stand there? Do you really want to stand there? Yeah, I was part of every kind of vegan business that I was a part of. No, no, no. That's great. No. Just go away from it. Yeah, but listen. You've kind of got to go there.

[video] 6:20 The thing I don't like about them is that I don't like them. I don't like them. I don't like them. I don't like them. I don't like them.

[video] 6:33 Just what you studied? Yeah, just what I studied. There's a lot of conflict of interest. Well, we'll walk around. We'll go to another stall. Another game in front of your business, heating like broccoli. I'm not the only one you've got to convince. If I move, they'll still stay.

[video] 6:52 Hopefully, when I was ripping it out, there was some brown shit. Hopefully that wasn't... Yeah, but I would just get it out then. Really? Yeah, of course. I just ate the heart. That was pretty good. So I would just get that out. I would eat the liver, the kidney, and the heart. So all the rest, all good organs are in there. Yeah. And this is all shit. Yeah, of course. And there's the kidney. How did you hunt it? We didn't hunt it. How did you get it then? Ordered online. Oh, so it's pre-killed? No, no, it's raw. A slingshot will do. Oh, a slingshot. I don't know how they hunt them. Probably an air rifle. Oh, you don't have to film anymore. I forgot about the GoPro. You can turn it off. When you throw them in cages or something. Like here. And then on the side, then it will turn off. And other side. You gotta simply hold it there, it will turn off.

[video] 7:47 Sometimes you've got to flick with the nail because you can't really get it off. Easy and gross.

[video] 8:08 The lamb is really good. Where are the lambs?

[video] 8:29 This is the heart. And there's the lungs. These are the lungs. Good stuff. First time eating raw squirrel.

[video] 8:48 I'll be honest with you, I did this, I did this. I missed it. You can go down.

[video] 9:07 Yeah, when you get like a bit that just pulls out, like a bit of spaghetti, just try and hold it there for a short, if and when you can.

[video] 9:32 This looks like muscle meat. Yeah, it's all muscle. The rest is all muscle. It's cool that they left the organs inside. I thought it would come gutted. So how did it taste guys? Lungs, liver and heart were the best. What was the worst? Nothing good. I mean, I threw out the stomach and gallbladder. That's the only thing that tastes bitter. Does it taste like any other meat you've had? Nah, it's different. Would you eat it again? Yeah. But it's pretty expensive. You would have to hunt it yourself. It's not worth the money. How much does a squirrel cost?

[video] 10:13 I don't think it was that much, maybe seven pounds, but then you get to pay for the shipping also. Where does it come from? British squirrel. Yeah, I forgot the place. Woodland squirrel. Woodland squirrel. They have to chew leaves all day, like ten pounds, like kilos of leaves. If we try and do that, we'll have a digestive failure. Yeah, see squirrel stuff in your teeth. What's your name, sorry?

[video] 11:09 I mean, I would shake your hand, but... I'd rather not give you my name. You won't give me your name? Yeah, I just want to stay a little more anonymous from now on. Does it all taste the same to you? How does it taste? It tastes like...

[video] 11:29 A little... I don't even know how it tastes like. It tastes very bland, no? It tastes bland? It tastes like real, no? I don't know what it tastes like. Muscle meat. I can't even compare it to anything. Nutty, kind of nutty taste. I would say if anything close to chicken. It's a unique flavor, but it's very bland. There's barely... It's nutty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There is a nutty taste.

[video] 11:57 There's a nutty taste yeah Apart from that, I don't know. Eat animal fats, don't die. Love yourself first before you can love any other animal or anything. And what is that? Blood? Oh, nice. It's like solid blood. I'm going to drink that. You know what's bad? When you can't eat meat anymore, you don't have a choice.

[video] 12:29 Thank you.

[video] 12:44 Hello. Nice vegan market here. Yummy, yummy, yummy. So the crops, they kill seven billion life forms a year, mono crops. And you could live off one cow for one year, killing only one bee. Wait, wait, wait, so tell me. Okay, okay, fair enough, I don't get that. and they're killed more viciously when we have that one cow we don't use all of that cow because all the products that we get are just they should fill it up i'm into local raising your own animals that's what that's actually a wrong fact actually because a lot i buy only local from the best art and i'm beginning to learn to raise animals i've only been three months on carnival it's my dream now to have a lot of byproducts so you want to use the whole animal They used all of the animals. To live? Instead of killing billions, yeah. You're contributing to murdering billions of animals. But you don't have to kill sentient beings just because... So do you.

[video] 13:40 Monocrops devastate ecosystems and they die violently in combine harvesters and pesticides. If you could raise one local animal naturally and live off one cow for one year... That would be far more ethical. What about Amazon? 91% of the Amazon forest is gone because of animals. It's not only because of animals at all. And I don't condone large-scale farming of any sort, but if you want to get into the sentient being argument, you're contributing to violent deaths because they die in combine harvests. It's very well known. So you're saying how you get your animals at the moment aren't dying out of violent deaths? No, they're dying as painlessly as possible. How do you kill someone as painlessly? Farmers are very humane. How could you say that something...

[video] 14:39 So if I say I went behind his back and shot him in the head... But you haven't addressed what I just brought forward, that you're contributing to more deaths. We set rules up in society. Not because I like dogs, but if I was in an Asian country and it was normal and it was social, I'd try it. I don't believe I'm malnourished. If anything, I'd sit next to them. So you don't care about the life of the animals? That's nonsense. Veganism was invented by city folk that are removed from nature. If you were Native American, any tribe, you would understand the cycles of nature and humans have evolved to eat meat. But you're harming Honestly, that was started by a big farmer in the 50s to sell margarine and vegetables. That's a fact. They check it out. Cholesterol is found only in animal products.

[video] 15:46 Every cell in your body is made of cholesterol. Of course! Because our liver makes the necessary cholesterol that we need for our body. You need cholesterol. It's fake. Do you know that the president of the Heart Association that created a lot of these things died at the age of 52 a couple of years ago from a heart attack? because he was following the guidelines you're now repeating. It was created to sell margarine. And every heart surgeon, honest heart surgeon, if they tell you what they find, coated to the arteries are vegetable oils, not animal fat. We're going to move down there, just so you know. Can you come at the side? Can you come?

[video] 16:38 Where do you want me to hold it? Where do you want me to hold it? I'm just going to put the water back. What? Is it literally eating? I'm going to sit here and do it where little children are. Where's the food? I don't see any food. Oh, are you blind? Is that food? Don't give them any attention. Oh, yeah, OK. Not in my world, man. They've got a phobia. What? They've got a phobia. I remember my first day at nursery class. They want you to make a reaction. What? I need a scooper.

[video] 17:46 Maybe you warmed it up a bit. I got the stomach. Are you sure you're not screwed? I'm ready. I don't want to sit here and never go to school. I'm ready to go.

[video] 18:04 Hey, don't look at me! Leave it. Don't you laugh at my son. He's got disabilities and you lot are just standing there doing stupid things. Look at you. All of you are disabled for eating plants. No, you are disabled in front of children. Plants don't have over 50 nutrients. Why are you malnourished for children? You upset people a lot on the autistic spectrum. I didn't do anything. I can eat where I want. You can eat where you want but you're upsetting the child. I didn't even say. You've got your own choices, I respect that.

[video] 18:35 If you're upset at kids, it's a different thing, you know? It's a different thing. Okay, man. Would you mind? We're pretty much going anyway. I appreciate it. Thank you, guys. What time is it? How is that any different to the Cuban truth? How is that any different? Nothing makes sense, I mean... Just with him being autistic, it doesn't... Yeah, but an autistic kid could walk past the Cuba Truth footage and still have this on them, I mean, you know. Yeah, it's whatever. Yeah, but it's what... This is what you're going to have. It's what the police are now going to deem to be appropriate. And the fact that he's autistic will go in his favourites. there's no there's no justice in it oh they're going to go anyway i think maybe it's time to go

[video] 19:30 oh what's happening here okay okay put it down on the floor no no this is my food okay put it in the bag put it away at the moment

[video] 19:53 It's 10 in the UK. Public order offences to causing alarm to press and distress around here by doing the actions that we're doing at the moment, OK? I don't really know what that means. OK, I'll just... Um, uh, once open, uh, Fran? Once open, yeah. We have this case, and I haven't had it in a while. Um...

[video] 20:24 There's Prem. Ah, there he is. Prem! So why do you say you didn't know that today? Because I'm not the one who ordered them. Sorry? I'm not the one who ordered them, but obviously I was dead. Well, I don't know that, because I've asked you the question, was it done live? And you said to me, I don't know. Well, you can buy a live squirrel. It's a jet squirrel. Okay. And what are you trying to prove by what you're doing today? I'm just trying to spread awareness about, basically, what the human, the best health, eating and diet is, which is what it means. And also... I wasn't trying to aggravate or basically provoke him. But what you've done is you've provoked a reaction from a lot of people here. Look how many people are now recording this. You've provoked a reaction, haven't you?

[video] 21:23 I understand, but I don't think if I ask anyone right now, some of these people, if I ask them now... I'll tell you for now, we've got a woman... What you've done is upset the kids. He's crazy. He's addicted now. You can see him. He's addicted. Yeah, come here, man. Excuse me, have we arrested him? Well, you just said he'd been detained. Oh, yeah, we were moving away. He's been detained, that means you're under arrest. Yeah, Doug. So what's he been detained under? OK, so what's he been detained under? I'll speak to him about it.

[video] 22:01 I just want to say it's our Christian right to eat meat wherever we please and it says it over and over again in the Bible. So it's our religious right and this is our protection. Have you sworn an oath to the Queen? and she's sworn an oath on the Bible to uphold the faith of this country. It's higher than statute law. When the Lord your God enlarges your territory as He has promised you and you say, I will eat meat because you crave meat, you may eat meat whenever you desire, Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience.

[video] 22:56 Now that the spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits. and doctrines of evil, speaking lies and hypocrisy, having their conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving, of them which believe and know the truth. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. So unless he's under arrest, he doesn't have to give his details? No, he doesn't. No, he doesn't.

[video] 23:51 But it's his religious right and the Queen literally has sworn an oath to the Christian faith. And all police officers have sworn an oath to the Queen. And they derive their power via the Queen who has sworn her oath. We can do the amicry, the Christian faith, or we arrest them and then we get it that way. What was the first one? Arresting them for what? For eating on the street? I've never heard that before. Like, what? What's going on here? That would be a new one. It's his right for eating on the street. It's an offence under the Public Order Act. It's an offence under the Public Order Act. Who's complaining? So you need to arrest them for hate crimes. That's the law. It's not a hate crime. It's the moment he's asking for ID. It is. Because they're stopping our religious rights. It's actually a hate crime. Speak to your superior officer. He will know this. This is fact. I've checked it out. It's a fact. Against religion.

[video] 24:56 You don't understand that if you stop people's religious rights, especially the one upholded by this very country, that that's actually literally listed as a hate crime. Listen, it's nothing. At the moment, what we're saying, the conversation we're having, is that there has been, at the moment, it looks like we have done something with this type of crime. You should arrest them. Honestly, that's the law. That's why I've looked into it. We're not making the judgement. We're just the police and we're following the law and it says you have committed a public order offence. But under the law you need to arrest the people that have complained because they're stopping our religion. I don't understand what you're saying. Just let him finish for a second. He actually does. It's the law. So, so I'm asking you again, can I get your details, please? We can investigate this. Right, so you're asking, but I don't have to give you?

[video] 25:55 Well, one way or another, you would have to give us all your details. One way or another. So you're saying if I didn't give you your details... Most likely, yes. Technically, he doesn't have to give his details until he's arrested. Well, there is actually... They weren't... Section 50 under the... I don't see the problem. Which is actually stopping the religious right... If he found the detention lawful, which even me is not lawful, unlawful, sorry. At the moment, we all want to move on, yes? If we can't move on, if he doesn't, then it becomes more serious.

[video] 26:39 I think we're literally walking away. Literally, when you came, we were walking away. We need your details. I don't have to give them to you.

[video] 26:52 And by the way, this is going out live, just so you know. We are doing that right now, like disturbing everything. If we were just walking around, there was no problem. Sir, we are also part of the public. So aren't we the public as well? Yes. So you're also taking a lead there from some people. Some people called 999 because they felt alarmed, harassed and frustrated. So next time I see somebody in a McDonald's burger, can I call the police? Because I find that offensive. As a vegan, I find that offensive. But I'm not finding this offensive because he's making his point and he has a right to protest. I've expressed it to you. Okay, so would you take my details down so I can give you as a witness statement that I'm an innocent bystander, I'm literally out doing some street photography, I've bumped into these guys, and as a vegan, I'm not offended by this, because he has a right to protest, like the UK law, he has a right to protest. This guy on the record is not offended by us, that's good. He was very peaceful. He was just standing there doing nothing. That's also the thing, I literally just ate. I'm the most peaceful guy here probably.

[video] 27:51 My wife is a vegan and I've got great sympathy for her, but I don't think that this helps the case because it's quite offensive. If I was walking here with my parents, I think my parents would be quite shocked by this. I understand. But the thing is, I was part of the raw vegan movement for 15 years, and it nearly killed me. And there's thousands of other people suffering on the vegan diet, and that's fat. So the only reason we're here, we don't make any money, is to warn people with information. and our right for free speech. But the way you chose it unfortunately offends other people. I know, but it's actually our right to eat what we like. Yes, but if you offend other people... But how would we know the line? We are not the cause. But vegans are generally offended by everybody eating meat.

[video] 28:42 Are we getting your details or not? Are you threatening to arrest me? I'm just asking you if you want to give your details. Hang on, important question. Are you requesting his details or are you ordering his details? I'm requesting his details. So under a request, you do not have to give your details? Unless you order him under a section, then he has to give his details. So trying to do it amicably, yeah. I'm just being as respectful as possible. But you're taking one side. You're taking one side because you're sitting there saying that you've had complaints from members of the public. I'm a member of the public. Who's not offended by this and I'm vegan? Can you just like one on one? I don't know. So you're only taking one side of a story? Yeah. Because you've only taken one side. Alright. So I'm telling you that I'm, you know... For me to investigate this... But you're not investigating it because I've said to you I'd offer you my details so I can go down as a witness statement to say that there is, that there is, as a vegan... It's not all of that. That's an alarm of distress. No, no, no, I'm talking to this officer here. He was literally there. Are we getting your details or not? Are you threatening to arrest him? I'm asking a question.

[video] 29:41 He doesn't want to give his details, but if you're going to arrest him, then obviously, which is not legal, because he hasn't done anything. And we were literally going away right now. Yeah. We were first there. If you commit a crime and you walk away, you think that's fine? No, but he didn't commit a crime, right? He didn't have a call to decide. That's also true. So now you're judging just right. This is what I'm saying. The police in this country don't know how that means nothing. They're unbiased. There's too many people talking. I'm dealing with gentlemen. You just turned around and said he's committed a crime. Now you're actually a judge, not a police officer. You just judge him. Allegedly he committed a crime. Right, so, you know, what crime? What crime? I understand that some people maybe cannot deal with this side. That I understand. And it's a higher criminal act to go against a religious belief. But secondly, he didn't do anything wrong. I'm sure four or five police officers wouldn't be turned on.

[video] 30:40 I didn't find it because he's protesting. What if I find their food offensive? I'd like to make a formal complaint, I'm offended by their food. What's the difference?

[video] 30:59 They were literally not making any sense. Well, I am offended by their food, though. It's true. Yeah, me too. You know, it's up to you. You can sue anyone if you like. It's still a civic claim. That's up to you. But by law, people can't eat burgers. No. Yeah, but also by... No, they're vegan stuff. Look guys, there is a limit of what he can do if he offends other people. If other people feel offended, harassed... I've just said to you, I get offended when somebody eats a burger, but you're saying that that... So he's eating... No, hang on. Under your logic, you've just turned around and said that if somebody's eating a burger, that's lawful because burgers are legal. So is eating meat. In this country, eating meat... So how can then that change to breaking the law with him eating a squirrel to somebody eating a beef burger? Where's the difference there? How do you weigh that up morally? I'd be interested to know, how would you weigh that up morally? Because the same thing is, it's still a dead carcass, it's still an innocent being that's been killed. Isn't it more real, at least we acknowledge the animal where it comes from?

[video] 31:57 And this is what I'm saying, you're being a bit biased because you're only picking one side. Instead of making it look like a burger. It's a little bit unusual. I've seen the animal in here, the dead animals, and I can see why people find it offensive. That's my judgement. It's not common, but it's not different than a cave or a cave. Should we close our eyes, like where the meat is coming from? Where our food comes from? It's our food. We should acknowledge the animals. Are you threatening me? No, I'm respectfully asking you. You will not be able to walk away without giving me a hand. Request or order is a very big difference. You will not be able to walk away from here without giving us your details. That's just the way it works. The thing is, you should arrest the people that complain. That's the law. You don't seem to know the law.

[video] 32:55 They're going against our religious beliefs to freely eat meat, as is said all through the Bible. What about that complaint? I'd like to start a new complaint. Can we talk one on one? I don't understand. I don't need to give it to you, but you're detaining me, so I don't understand.

[video] 33:23 At this stage, you don't. The next stage is, you'll be arrested. So, we should just go now, before the next stage goes on. We were going already. He won't be able to leave. Well, then you're down to arrest him. Won't. That's a future sentence. Won't. We are right now. So, let's just go. No, he said he's detaining me. If he walks, he will get arrested. But it's up to you on how willing you are to go with it. They're illegally... If you've got nothing to hide... OK, can I have your name and address? No, no, can I have your name and address and date of birth? You have nothing to hide.

[video] 34:03 Why do you want my address? I want your name and address because you've just turned around and said you've got nothing to hide. I asked them right at the start. They said they detained me. It's always convenient how it's, you know. He's in a sensitive position. He doesn't want to give you this information. Sensitive position is the fact that he's not sticking to the law. I'm saying he's in a sensitive position as well. Yeah, no, I appreciate that. And also, if anyone, I would take down his number because you can request a video footage of this as well. Okay. And then actually you'll have a witness of actually saying somebody that's vegan wasn't offended by that as well, so then that would be unjust. So that can be used in a court of law. Right. The number here? If you want to move on, I would give you details. If you don't want to move on, that's literally what's going on. There's no leg to stand on. What do you do with the details?

[video] 34:56 What do you do with the IDs? His whim is like the standoff. We need to check your background. You could be wanted by the offensives. Right, okay, so that's what it's about. Because you said you were investigating this case, but... Well, to investigate the case, we need to know who we're dealing with. Oh, great, great. Makes sense, huh? No, it doesn't. Yeah, you could be someone who's caused... And have you got written statements for that effect as well by the other people that have made that complaint? Well, not me. What complaint? Well, you've just said there's been a complaint. There's a different office here. We all deal with different things. So could you find out whether there's been any statements made? At the moment, I can't find out because I'm dealing with this person here. You can't go onto your radio and just find out? Is that that you can't or you're not choosing not to? At the moment, I'm dealing with this person. OK, ask him if he can radio through to you. Is there any statements? For the Section 5? There's a system called CAD where every call is monitored.

[video] 35:55 OK, have you got the CAD number for this as well? That would be handy. I'm an investigative journalist so I can actually get the information. You might want to look into how religion trumps statute law. OK, ask for the CAD number. Ask CAD numbers for that. Basically, any incident related to this, if you ring 101 or the police, it will come under this. So a CAD number is like an ID number, basically.

[video] 36:22 computer-aided dispatch. So, how are we going to do this now? Do we need to take you with us, or can we do this on the street, easily, without stress? Because once you get arrested...

[video] 36:42 He has his rights to eat meat. There has been sworn an oath, right? As a police officer. That oath is to the Queen, right? She swore an oath on the Bible.

[video] 37:04 they're only trained to understand statutes acts and laws that's it anything else they just they can't compute it freeman of the law and all that it just doesn't work it doesn't make it untrue but they're programmed they're trained in a way that they will they will only go down one line through and if you notice he won't listen to me because he knows i know a bit

[video] 37:30 Excuse me, have you got the cab number for this? Could you find out for me please?

[video] 37:38 Yeah, that would be great. Thank you. So she's helpful, you're not? I'm just trying to understand what you're going to do with the ID. I'm explaining to you. Yeah, you're going to check the background. We're going around in circles. No, no, you're going to check the background. We're going around in circles. I understood until I checked the background, and then looking at the data, that I should understand what kind of data this is.

[video] 38:01 Well, I need to know with who I'm dealing. Right, but you said you also enter my name somewhere. That's right. I need your name for that. Right, what kind of database? Well, it's a police national computer. Police what? Police national computer, BNC. So then I'm like a criminal. Well, I don't know if you are. No, I mean after you enter. So what will happen is they put it in, if you ever get stopped by the police again in the UK, and they ask your details again, they would then say, okay, he's not known or wanted to the police, but he's known for such and such, so you got stopped on such and such day for this, and it was no further action. So they basically build up a picture of people through getting their details. So what does it mean if I get added to it all the time? Then you acknowledge that there is no crime in the first place, so we can just go. Well, at the moment I'm investigating if there is a crime. Yeah, well, we just did that, and the conclusion is no crime.

[video] 39:00 I'm hearing one side from you, yeah, and I'm sure we'll hear back from other officers what they've found out, so I need to know. You've also heard from me, who's a vegan that's not offended, which you're not willing to take any sort of details down or anything like that, so you're not investigating it properly. At the moment, I'm dealing with a suspect. I need to make sure the suspect doesn't disappear. Well, I don't think he's running anywhere, is he, really? He's trying to get information from you, which you've been very vague at answering. I think I'm pretty upfront with what's happening. It's very obvious. Well, no, I don't think you have. Yeah, but it's very obvious. Yeah, but it's obvious. If you get arrested for no reason, you can sue them. And you can carry out the investigation. You know, do whatever they have to do. Can I have your name, sir?

[video] 39:53 You'll have to grab my details so if it goes to court I can be a witness for you and give a statement. Do you not believe in right to protest anymore? Of course.

[video] 40:09 It's a fine line between protesting and offending other people. So when I was down there, I was at Westminster a few months ago, there was a lady holding up a sign with a baby's feet as an abortion poster. I rang you guys, you came out and you did nothing about it. That was more disgusting than this. He's eating something, but they're showing pictures of dead babies. And the police did nothing about it. I was quite upset. In fact, my missus was crying. There's blood everywhere, animals tear apart. Nobody does anything about it.

[video] 40:38 Cuba Truth, I was down at the London Eye yesterday, they were showing pictures of Sula. You just take the vegan side, that's just the truth. He's accused of eating meat in a vegan market. So what do you protest about? You're pro-vegan, against vegan, or what? The vegan diet doesn't have over 15 nutrients, or babies dying. And they have these here, well nourishing everybody, and all we wanted to show is we have the science, what vitamins the vegan diet doesn't have. We ate the meat to get people's, of course, the attention, but I eat raw meat in general, that's all I eat. So there was a, I haven't done anything wrong. I'm here, and he is. That would be like, that would be fascism, no free speech at all. Yeah, but that's not the issue. The vegan show, of course, footage with all the information. Right there, there's tourists and everybody watching. That's all I'm saying. If you're on tonight, six o'clock it's on.

[video] 41:29 I think it's about 6-6.30 that they do it, and they show some horrific footage of the animal slaughter, which, once again, I would agree with, because I am vegan and I think it should be shown, but it can cause a lot of stress. Are you a vegan then? Are you anti-vegan? I've only just met these guys, that's what I said. I'm doing some street photography. I've met these guys, I've found it quite interesting what they're up to. And as a vegan, one of the people that should be offended, should be disgusted by this, I'm not, because I know he has a right to protest. But this is what I'm saying to you. I've called you up in the past about that woman that was showing dead fetuses all over the place. My missus was crying, and you said there's nothing we can do about it, because they're protesting. You have a right to protest. And then when I've sat there and said to you that I will give you a statement because I'm willing to do that, not I've got nothing to hide, I'm willing to give my details, because I don't think he should be persecuted for something that he believes in. We're trying to establish the offence. I'm trying to establish with who I'm dealing here. And once I've done that, and your statement might be relevant, then we can talk.

[video] 42:28 But at the moment, I'm dealing with a suspect, as I explained to you. So why don't you arrest him? He's showing the footage. It's way worse than what I did. Right. We've got a complaint about someone having a dead squirrel. biting into a dead squirrel and people being offended by it. And I saw you just when we arrived with a dead squirrel and biting into it. So at the moment, you're matching the suspect's description, yeah? Yeah, I get it. But what if he would call the police on them now? I think he would arrest them. So at the moment... Yeah, but what if all of us now call the police on the people in this square? The easiest way to get out of this, if you give me your details, you can check your background and see if everything else is fine, and we can probably find an amicable solution. But at the moment, you're not cooperating. But you can also find an amicable solution, just let him walk off. I wouldn't mind giving him my ID if you wanted to. You know what? You can just let him walk off as he was doing. Because at the moment, there isn't much to hold him on. I wouldn't mind giving you the ID if you wanted to. If this went to court and he was legally eating me,

[video] 43:24 Which you've already established, which on camera, you've already established that it's legal to eat in this country, to eat cows, to eat pigs. I'm not being funny, I find it disgusting that he's eating a squirrel. I also find it disgusting that people eat burgers. But at the end of the day, I can't get offended. We need to stop being offended by everything in this country. It's my job. to make sure I leave a suspect to find out who he is or who she is. If I let people go without knowing who they are, it's dangerous. So the next process would be to wait until to see if you're going to make any further action. He could be wanted for murder. Yeah, so could this person here, so could she, so could he, so could he, so could he. So are you now going to start questioning everyone because he might be wanted? Exactly. He hasn't done anything apart from eating. That's the point. Most likely committed an offence. That has to be found in a court of law whether he's committed that offence. It's a very personal decision. Do you think, honestly, do you think a judge would find somebody eating meat an offence?

[video] 44:21 I'm not being difficult, I'm just asking a question because I find this fascinating. You need to bring us the conclusion, so you don't want to give up the details. OK, it's fine, he's going to get arrested. No, why? It's a public order offence. What, for eating food? No, it's a public order offence that causes harassment and alarm distress. OK, can I ask a question then? Come over here and ask a question. If you wouldn't have a conversation here, there wouldn't have been any public arrests taking place. I don't even mind giving you my ID if you want to check who I am and my background, but I don't care because I have no background. I've asked you for the past 20 minutes, you haven't been operating, so you have no choice but to arrest you. I don't mind giving you the ID if you want to check my background. I never said I do. The decision has been made. What's going to happen is you go to the police station and speak about it there. You weren't ordering him. You were requesting him. If you order me, I will give it to you. What's going to happen? You go to the police station and speak about it.

[video] 45:20 He hasn't done anything. This doesn't make sense. The allegations have been made. We're going to investigate it. Part of that is we'll take it to the police station. Allegations of what? Of eating his food? it doesn't matter what you say it doesn't matter oh wow well that's that's the law right you know you're facilitating a hate crime against his religious right to eat meat you really are not making any sense

[video] 45:53 to a normal person like myself. So you haven't sworn an oath to the Queen then? No, I haven't actually, I have, yeah. And she hasn't sworn an oath on the Bible then? I've heard people like you, lots and lots. Like me? Yes, and you're going to quote to me the law. So now you're going to be racist or what? Like me, what am I like? I don't know, someone who's generalising other... You're not making sense. I would talk to you as a reasonable person. Well, you don't seem to. You just said no matter what, you're going to take him in. But that's not reasonable. How do you know? Do you know the rationale? Whether he's been lawful enough. Can you bring my phone? I need my phone. Can I have my phone? The time is now 15.40. Can you give it up for the camera? No comment. No comment. No comment. And what's the name of the solicitor?

[video] 46:48 He needs to listen. He needs to say no comment. He needs to say no comment to any of these. No comment. And if they take you to the... Everything is on camera. I was carrying her. This is all girl stuff. You want travel cards? Please ask me to give you an order of cards.

[video] 47:14 Disgusting. Disgusting. I'm gonna go with you, yeah? I don't know if you care. It's how it's all fucked up. If you guys arrest me, I have to go with him. You can't go with him. Can you give me the scab off the camera? You have no right to arrest this man.

[video] 47:34 You have no right to arrest him. You should have thought that before he upset some kids, shouldn't he? I get offended when everyone eats burgers, but there you go. And I'm vegan. No right to arrest him. He has not done anything whatsoever. No, no, seriously, seriously, don't. You'll make it harder for him. He just needs to say no comment and then he needs to ask for buyman solicitors. This is totally illegal.

[video] 48:04 You are doing something illegal. Listen, Byman solicitors. Byman solicitors. They're an activist solicitors. Ask for them. Do not take the duty solicitor. The duty solicitor works with the police. Byman solicitors. Step back, please. Thank you. Byman, yeah? Take the camera. Come on, let's go. So here they are, showing once again this is not a vote. This is a dictatorship. This is a fascist country. Disgusting.

[video] 48:43 Absolutely disgusting. Maybe tomorrow. This is a hate crime.

[video] 49:06 This is a hate crime. It's a hate crime against the Christian religion and just basic human rights of eating your lunch wherever you so please. And not being a part of a religion where meat is totally allowed.

[video] 49:26 Can you step back, please? I don't know.

[video] 49:42 Can you step back, please, as well, please? Thank you. Do you want to go in there? This is the UK 2019.

[video] 50:02 Real quick, people are dying on the street, but they don't know anything about it. They arrest somebody that's eating on the street. Police, thank you. Police station that he's going to, and doing like an arrestee support. Here, look, we do. Let's go down, go to the police station. What do you think they're doing?

[video] 50:31 He stood there eating all over the bloody bike. If he ate a swan it's not even a swan, it's a special one.

[video] 50:50 He's a volunteer police officer, so he doesn't need another full camera. Don't worry about it, I understand. It's a camera, Kev. This is a battery for the camera. We need to not speak to him until we get to the station. Anything he says can be used as evidence.

[video] 51:20 This is it, Dave. This is it, Dave. Can I make a phone call to the police station? Mate, I told you, man. It was polluting the air with your beaconism. He can call you when he's given a chance, OK? Are you going downtown? No, I don't want to. Give me your number. Give me your number. Let's go around here so it's out of the way.

[video] 52:09 I mean, don't travel and eat raw squirrels and this might not happen. Where are you travelling to? I've actually offered my details as well because I want to make a statement.

[video] 52:29 Nah, man. Peek-a-bye, bro. You're gonna peek.

[video] 52:45 and you're eating raw squirrels that stink. Do you know what vegans do? Yeah, but I know what you're saying, mate. I'm not an idiot. I get that. But at least let me finish, innit? Yeah. If I am a vegan and you're eating raw squirrels around me, where I want to buy vegan food, you're basically contaminating the air and everything that we believe in. And I'm not a vegan. I'm just saying, innit? Yeah, but it shouldn't be an arrestable offence. No one comes up to Sainsbury's and says, take all the meat away. Mate, everyone gets offended in this day and age. It's ridiculous politically correct. But you're not investigating it because no one's taking my details. So how can you...

[video] 53:24 So basically you'll only take the side that you need to hear to prove the conviction. No, that's what I'm saying, it doesn't make sense. I'll explain it again. It doesn't matter that you weren't. A woman and a child were.

[video] 53:40 That is the allegation. Doesn't matter that you weren't offended, doesn't matter whether I was offended or not. It's that someone else was offended. So it only takes one person to be offended? It only takes one person. So that's what I'm saying. So tonight, when I'm outside McDonald's, I am the person that's going to be offended when somebody's eating a poor, murdered cow. You're not going to do that, are you? No, I am going to do that. That's exactly what I'm going to do. After me and the other guy were arrested for eating meat at a vegan market, We were brought to the police station, and you would have to be there to believe it. It was absolutely absurd. I was brought to the police desk, and the officer who arrested me, who you can see in the video, talked to another officer, and all that they talked about was me being anti-vegan. Even though they confiscated the squirrels and the bird, they didn't even talk about that. They talked about my shirt which said veganism equals malnutrition and took that as evidence. Also my GoPro. This is why you can hear in the video the police officer asking if we are pro or anti-vegan.

[video] 54:39 It's as if he was basing his decision to arrest us on us being pro or anti-vegan. Also, he mentioned that his wife is vegan.

[video] 54:51 It's an absolute joke. This is why vegans don't get arrested for showing footage which is way, way more graphic and worse than what I did. It's like snuff films that they show with the anonymous masks, and there's children, babies, and the police don't do anything. They are protected by the police. In nature, if somebody would eat a squirrel, nothing would happen, and this is the only thing that I did. But because it's in a city, people who do not like nature get offended by it. It's a ridiculous way... to handle these kind of situations with this Section 5 thing in the UK.

[video] 55:36 There's no free speech, you can simply eat meat wherever you want at this point and this is very dangerous because now you have spots where you literally can't eat meat anymore and this is going to spread even more if we allow vegans to take control.