Jesus Reviews: Christians vs. Atheists @Dr. Daf Show

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0:00 Hello my children. Today I'm going to be reviewing a video called 25 Christian vs 25 Atheist Women.

[video] 0:18 What does all the suffering in the world say about the nature or existence of God? Anyone can start. I would say if he does exist, he's an absentee landlord, or he doesn't exist at all. There's a lot of suffering that happens to the most innocent of innocent. We're talking like from infant to children to women.

0:39 This is very interesting because what she's saying is that if there would be a God, then he would protect us. We wouldn't suffer. You can only come to this conclusion if you are removed from nature. Because if you live naturally, then you understand that not only is suffering part of life, You cannot live without consuming the lives of others. It's impossible. And the reason she doesn't understand this is because her meat comes from some slaughterhouses, maybe farms, if lucky. She doesn't see how the animals are killed. She has no idea how you actually live in nature.

1:28 and to men as well but you know the most vulnerable people suffer so much so how would you explain that yes look at any documentaries predators hunt down the weakest smallest animals this life is all about The best ones surviving, winning. Again, you cannot understand this if you live in this modern civilization. Because you're removed from this actual reality. And that's why it doesn't make sense to her.

[video] 2:09 So I first want to say thank you for what you just said. So could I quickly just share my testimony, quick brief, 10, 20 seconds? So I'm actually a survivor of human trafficking. That's why I came to the United States with my then six-year-old son. And I'm also a survivor of domestic violence. And I've been through a lot of hell, a lot of abuse. And, you know, there was times that I questioned God. But I realized even, you know, reading the Bible, especially the book of Job, God has so much sovereignty. He can either allow that suffering to help someone actually grow in their faith. So for me, you know, when I think about my past, you know, sometimes I think, you know, why did I suffer like that? Why are people being sexually abused? Why are people suffering, right? And what you said about absentee landlord, you know, I can understand how you can feel that way. Because there's been times even in my life as a Christian, I almost became an atheist, but I chose to hold on to my faith because that's the only thing that, you know, kept me alive.

3:02 Right, exactly. And this is a sign of extreme weakness. Nothing makes sense, you're questioning it, which is good, but you do not want to let go of this belief, this absolutely blind belief, just because without that, everything falls apart.

[video] 3:24 And one of the worst things that happened to me in my life was actually I lost my three sons 10 years ago. Ever since that, you know, I was in a lot of pain. I almost committed suicide. But it was my faith in God that kept me alive and helped me, you know, go through. Even right now, I have a documentary going on.

3:39 Right. Because without that, she wouldn't be able to cope, so to speak.

[video] 3:48 on YouTube under Brazilian Princess Music. I'm also a musician. I make Christian rap and Christian rock music. And I'm talking about just the things I'm going through and how God is such a provider, how real He is. He's done miracles. He's healed me from diseases. People are nasty in this world, and it's not right. But biblically, if you were to read the Old Testament to the New Testament, God is a provider, and He makes a way. And I appreciate speaking to you about this topic.

4:13 It would be even more interesting to read the original so-called Bible, the texts that were released after the death of Jesus officially.

4:27 It completely goes against modern Christianity. Essentially, for the most part, it teaches you the opposite of what is taught to Christians today. Because Christians believe that human nature is sinful. It's what you've been programmed to do. And if you believe in a God, that would mean that God programmed you to be like this. But no, you're born and then you're supposed to learn to live the opposite way. from a book you simply read man-made symbols a book which was written to control you to enslave you but of course no that's the truth and what's inside of you what's innate what's natural for you that's all wrong evil and sinful

[video] 5:17 Thank you for sharing that. That was very personal. But I have to say, you kind of solidified that there is a God and there is a lot of suffering. It sounds like you've suffered a lot. You've lost your children and what have you. But then you claim that he came up like the cleanup crew and made you feel better about all the suffering. So that doesn't make sense to me. It sounds to me like you actually confirmed that there is no God and that that's why there's so much suffering and so much pain because of all you've been through. And then you just felt better that, well, you know, there's something out there looking out for me. So it's okay that I lost all of this. How do you explain that? So, you know, I don't think that I confirm that there's no God. If anything, I feel that I'm confirming that there is God because the fact that I'm even still alive is a miracle. I shouldn't even be alive, you know. So I know that he's real. I know that he's true.

6:00 know the suffering it's they oftentimes use these words such as knowing uh i've even heard some people use the word fact that people generally when they talk about their beliefs even religious beliefs they use the words knowing knowledge fact which is insane pretty much because it's a belief believe whatever you want as long as you don't confuse it with what you know which is what you can sense because what is real has to be sensed you cannot believe it so when you talk about something that you know or a fact it has to be actually factual you have to be able to sense it it can never be based on your beliefs

[video] 6:48 It's not fair, but I believe it's what is necessary to build faith. How do you describe faith? Faith is believing, right? Faith is, and the Bible says, faith is a substance of, I'm trying to remember that word. Amen. And I feel like whenever I have faith, you know, just daily when I pray, whenever I have faith, it makes me feel strong inside. Because, you know, as a mother, you know, I'm still not fully recovered. from losing my three sons 10 years ago but it's my faith but that's a sign of weakness because you hold on to it to try to get over what happened to you faith in god that keeps me going so i i can claim that god is real jesus is real he's a miracle worker he's a provider do you feel that you thank you

[video] 7:47 have to believe that so you can feel better about what you've been through. And I'm sorry for your loss. It's absolutely the worst thing that can happen to a mother. It's a lot of pain. Do you feel like you're just using it as some sort of cushion or a feel good? Because you've lost so much, if not for that, like you completely lose it, like any mother would understandably. Do you feel like you're just using some sort of like big old teddy bear and it feels good to feel like something is looking out for you when there really isn't? It's just a feeling. Well, I feel that, yeah, Jesus, you know, he's everything I need. And I feel that it fills that part of me that's broken. So I do feel that God is, you know, he fills that space.

8:22 Is everything that you need a belief? Just something that you blindly believe? Or do you want something that's real, actually in this reality? If you could choose, what would you choose? Something that's real, what you really want? Or would you choose a belief? Do you simply want to believe that there is God somewhere or he's inside of you? void so i do feel that that yeah it's necessary for me to have faith in what i have my faith in i do so what do you say about right religious people have this emptiness they are lost and this is what they try to feel very often people who experienced trauma find religion find god

[video] 9:19 You know, an innocent child, a baby, a five-year-old who's died, murdered, sexually assaulted, mutilated. A three-year-old, a four-year-old who doesn't have the capacity to say, well, you know, I have faith in God, and after my death of dying so horribly, it's going to be okay, you know, because God is out there. What do you say to a three-year-old, a four-year-old, a five-year-old that can't talk about God or hasn't even learned about God yet? How do you explain that? So I personally, I'm angry about that topic. I'm angry about the suffering in the world. But I really believe also, you know, since the fall of Adam and Eve, we have a dangerous gift called free will. And those people that do those wicked things to children will be held accountable on Judgment Day. So even as bad as it is, the things that happen, there will be accountability whether people believe it or not. You mentioned free will, meaning that God lets you do whatever and heal.

10:00 This also doesn't make any sense. These people believe that God is watching everybody. If you read the book, then you know, you believe what you're supposed to do in this life, how you're supposed to behave. And the rest of the people, even the ones who never even read the book, they will be judged. Once you die, you pass on into some other realm. He will wait for you and judge you for what you did as if everybody is being watched. It's as if you have cameras in your home watching you.

10:46 I would almost feel paranoid believing this kind of nonsense.

[video] 10:50 Is that your logic? Yes, it is. Okay, so if there's free will and then there's punishment, that's not free will. It sounds like a stipulation to me. That's what it sounds like. It sounds like a condition. If I tell you you're allowed to do anything you want over here, but if you do the thing I don't like, then you'll burn in eternal fire. That's not free will, is it? That's a condition. That's a stipulation. Well, you know, everybody has a choice to either choose Jesus or to not choose him. You know, in the Bible it states that every tongue will confess and every knee will bow. So whether someone is a believer or an atheist, we all have to bow.

11:26 It's very hard to argue for free will in general because human beings have desires, a drive... It's naturally part of us. For example, if you're hungry, you are going to hunt down an animal and eat it, consume their life in nature. As I said, nowadays, you buy it in a supermarket, you don't even understand what happened, where the meat comes from. Point being, this is what actually drives you. You could, of course, choose to fast, to starve, which is what a lot of religious people do. They go against their intuition. And this is what they do all the time anyway. But you don't want to do that. Meaning that what you want to do is very clear. And this is your will.

12:26 That's why it's a tricky topic, really. You cannot say that.

[video] 12:33 Before the king. And to answer your question, I can get where you're getting that from, right? But at the same time, you know, free will is free will. Like just, for example, you have the choice to be an atheist. I have the choice to be a Christian. Well, what happens if they don't choose Jesus? What happens to them if they don't choose? Because you said they have free will to choose.

12:50 Again, the problem with this is that, yes, you could maybe say that you choose it. I wouldn't say that, but you can argue about it. But these beliefs come from the outside. They are not innate. They are not part of you. A human being in nature doesn't think of a cross to wear, a chain which enslaves you, which shows that you're a slave, the symbol. He cannot think of some kind of... Jesus, God and so on. You don't think of that. It's impossible because these beliefs were created by other people. They told you about it and then you started believing in that. But it's not natural. It's not even real.

[video] 13:40 Jesus or not choose Jesus. So what happens if they don't choose Jesus? You can't go to heaven. So that's a stipulation. It's a condition. But, you know, again, I'm so sorry for your loss. Thank you for being so honest. It's hard to even say out loud. Thank you. And you're an amazing woman. Thank you. God bless you. Great meeting you. Thank you. Thank you, ladies, for addressing this topic. Now I would like to know if either one of you find a bridge statement that you'd like to stand on. And if not, if you can just leave us with one statement that just wraps up your belief on this particular question. Sure. So all the suffering in the world to me means there is no God, and if there is a God, he's an absentee landlord.

[video] 14:18 All the suffering in the world to me means that God is sovereign and that he can use that to give us a testimony and to help us endure in our faith. Thank you, ladies.

14:35 The funny thing is that both of the women are religious. Really almost in the same way. The other one simply doesn't realize it. They don't realize that our societies are completely based on religions. Almost 100%. With the exception that you don't believe in a god. And there are some other beliefs. But these are not even important. They don't even define what religions are really about. The purpose of religions is to invert your reality, to remove you from nature, and to make you believe that your nature is sinful, meaning that you completely go against your own intuition, what's innate. And if you believe in a god, then you would be going against the way God programmed you. That's really the purpose of religions.

15:35 You could call it a huge magic spell which has been put over people. And I don't mean a magic spell the way you talk about it in movies and cartoons. I just mean really, really severe brainwashing, extreme manipulation.

[video] 15:51 ...agrees with what your representative spoke of. Okay. Anyone that doesn't agree? Okay. And ladies on this side, who here agrees with what your representative spoke? Is there anyone here who does not agree with what she spoke? Yeah, so I really understand where you're coming from. I could see why you could come to that conclusion because whenever I come to these kinds of conversations, I really want to try my best to see it from your guys' perspective, atheist, agnostic, whatever you identify as. My perspective of that is she talked about the knowledge of good and evil, the fall of man, right? We always had free will, but through the knowledge of good and evil, we then knew evil and good. So therefore, we had the choice to choose either, right?

16:31 That doesn't make any sense. You cannot simply find out about good and evil or know about it all of a sudden magically out of nowhere. Of course you read about it, you're conditioned and then you believe what is good and evil. How else would you know what good and evil is? Remove the O from good, you have God. Add a D to evil, you have the devil. These are religious terms completely, there's no such thing in nature.

[video] 17:08 If you look at, say, sexual assault for children, murder, things like that for kids, usually that's at the hand of somebody who's operating in evil, absent of God, so not inviting God into their life. And I would explain that I would I can even I can already hear the argument of like, you know, Catholic priests who are doing crazy stuff that they definitely should not be doing. I would still argue that that is the absence of inviting God into their life, into their heart to move, because I know that before Christ, I haven't always been a Christian before Christ. I didn't love people very well. Personally, of course, I could be nice and kind and whatever but personally my heart posture towards others I wouldn't say it was the best now that I am filled with the Spirit of God and I Activate that I walk in that I have so much love for everybody that I ever seen so people who operate in judgment or operate in hate or harm towards others

17:54 I wonder how it would be for her if she would be set out into nature, if she would actually have to survive, and if she would have a man next to her, then they may be able to do it, but she would still see a lot of suffering. Seeing as she believes in morals, I would love her to tell me the moral difference between killing an animal, any kind, and...

18:24 your own species, just purely morally when it comes to feeling pain, suffering. Of course, they can never do that.

[video] 18:34 I think that is the absence of God in their life. And then also I wanted to say, you can even talk about this in terms of like leukemia, right? Kids having leukemia. Just because something is a hope does not mean it's a fantasy. I feel like there's this idea like, oh, it's just a crutch.

18:47 Yes, there's a lot of religious parents who have sick children, especially nowadays because of the way we live, removed from nature, which they don't understand. They believe that they are Following God's will, even though they are following man's will, of course, men who wanted to enslave them. And then when they see that their child is sick, they believe that it's some kind of sign from God. They are supposed to suffer. It's a test. When in reality, they simply went against nature. They fed the child unnatural food. Seeing as humans in nature eat raw meat, they drink blood, which they would never allow their children, anybody in their family to consume. Not the raw meat, but the blood for sure also not. That's a big no. Or maybe the mother also ate unnatural food. She did some other stuff.

19:46 She did what the doctors recommended, all kinds of pills and whatnot. And now she believes that it was out of her hands and it was simply supposed to be like that. When in reality, you did that. You were unhealthy. You created an unhealthy child because you went against nature. And when you go against nature in this reality, you will suffer a lot.

[video] 20:11 So that means it's false. But just because people have hope in something that they might not have seen or might not directly understand does not necessarily mean that it doesn't exist. Personally for me, I have a very logical mind and so I would struggle a lot with my beliefs and I end up in positions of, you know, having conversations with atheists and having to... Something doesn't exist if you cannot sense it with any of your senses.

20:37 That's it. Because then it's a belief. It's as simple as that.

[video] 20:41 reconcile my faith with these kinds of arguments that I see people presenting because they make sense. Like, you guys aren't stupid. You guys are smart. And so you guys are approaching these things from a very logical place, and I understand why you came to that conclusion. But when Jesus encountered me supernaturally the way that he did, he gave me that encounter so that I can rest on that faith even though I wrestle with other things. It says in 1 Corinthians that the wisdom of God is more intelligent than the wisdom of man. And just because we don't understand something doesn't mean it's not true. Two basic points. First of all, you talked about God giving you the strength to do whatever. You're denying that you have inner strength to pull yourself out of whatever it was. And it's really important that we all realize the power and strength of ourselves.

21:23 yes people who follow christianity especially today always talk about jesus coming back god saving us and all of that they never talk about the power inside of you they always talk about themselves and everybody else as if everybody is weak there is no hope simply

21:48 give all the power to something that doesn't exist, which we cannot even sense, and then just believe that he will save us. This is the perfect slave mentality. Think about it. If people wanted to enslave you, and they wanted to create weak human beings then it would be perfect for them to believe that you have no power and that the power is inside of this being which you cannot even sense which doesn't even exist because then you will simply live your life waiting for something which will never come and they can do whatever they want to do naturally

[video] 22:36 I've never believed in a god or a supreme being or a ruler. And I'm kind and I do a lot of volunteer work and I rely on myself and my fellow humans to do what I need to do. I'm a very moral person. Not because of any belief.

22:50 Yes, this is what I meant exactly. She's a moral person. Person just means slave. And it's the same with morality. It's all religious completely, 100%. That's the origin of it. Not natural, not innate. No human being in nature has morals. Not that you can have them anyway. You can only believe in them and then you can blindly follow these morals.

23:25 As I said, it's religious terms, everything that has to do with morals. And 99% of people on this earth are completely religious. They follow... religions in their everyday life even when they think about what is legal or illegal in a lot of cases when you actually look at it it's the same as what the bible will tell you because it's all based on good and evil sins everything that you follow in your everyday life you always follow religions And all of the atheist women sitting there follow the same religious values as the other women. That's the funniest part. It's religious people arguing against religious people in reality.

24:20 The only exception is that the other side also talks about God and Jesus. But their values are the same, as you can hear. The other woman even admits it.

[video] 24:31 Right, and they also believe in heaven and hell. But they still believe that it's bad to do what you naturally want to do, in a lot of cases.

24:48 What's the difference? Okay, you don't believe that you're going to go to heaven or hell if you're good or bad. When in reality, of course, what you believe is good is actually bad and what you believe is bad is actually good. But you still believe that you shouldn't do it. It's the same thing. You're still afraid to do what you want to do. So you do what you're told to do. Okay, the one side believes that they will go to hell, but the other side will still never do anything that they want to do. They simply won't believe that they will go to hell, but really there's no difference because you're living the same lives. At its core, it's all the same because you're all under the same magic spell.

[video] 25:33 The intrinsic goodness and strength of humans. It's not given to me by the Flying Spaghetti Monster or whomever. But the second point I wanted to make is that you keep referring to God as He who says.

25:48 The funny thing is that it was given to her by the Flying Spaghetti Monster or whatever you want to call it, whatever you want to believe.

[video] 25:58 And the third point is you're condemning by what you said in your belief in Jesus and this and that for those who don't believe in Jesus which is probably you know eighty percent of the world maybe they believe in Confucius or Buddha or whatever, or nuns like we are, non-believers, you're condemning us to what you would say is a hell. You know, it's really possible to lead a moral life because you're a moral and good human being without a belief in a supreme being. Because, you know, basically belief in a supreme being grew out of superstition for man to be able to recreate his world in a fashion that he could understand.

26:38 No, it's very simple. These religions, the first one, was created because people wanted to enslave the others and simply dominate. And they thought that it's going to be way easier to do it this way instead of fighting endless wars. Which is why they brainwashed people and made them afraid to do what they naturally want to do. And then they started believing that dominating is bad, which is why we should read a book and our goal should be to go to heaven.

[video] 27:18 You look at any holiday, Christian particularly, it all came out of pagan celebrations. All of them. And, you know, people were good before that and people were bad before that. People were good before a belief in God and bad before a belief in God. So, you know...

27:33 That's also an interesting point. People always used to worship the sun because it's clearly highest power in this reality we know that we don't need to believe in that we can simply go outside and we know it because we can sense it and then these people were told that there is a non-existent god which we cannot sense but it's there believe us it really is there and it's watching you and it will know when you do something bad and what's bad is your nature

[video] 28:12 OK, I would like to touch on the fact that you said that you can live a moral life without God. And I actually disagree with you. You only have a moral grounds to stand on because you were raised in a Christian upbringing. I was raised as an atheist. Well, you were you were you raised in if you were raised, for example, like let's just speak of America, if you were raised in America.

28:35 Yes, that's exactly what I meant. I think we'll see what she says.

[video] 28:39 Exactly. It's even deeper than that, but she pretty much understands it. That's why 99% of people follow the same values, morals, everything. It's all religious.

29:08 Most of what you do is religious. It doesn't matter if you say if you believe in a God or not, Jesus or not, absolutely irrelevant. It is the way you're living your life.

[video] 29:20 I would like to argue that if you were born in like a place where they have no... Christ has not been introduced to them, you would think that maybe sacrifice is okay. That's not moral. We can all agree that that's not moral.

29:31 Why is this girl in the blue shirt...

29:37 acting like this as if it's wrong by the way who is that next to her whatever it's exactly how it would be of course because if you wouldn't be introduced to all of these values then you would be living naturally then you would do what you want to do simply of course that's how it always has been If you were raised in a place where they... She admits that morals are man-made, that they are given to you. Of course, that's what she's saying. Because she's talking about you being introduced to Christ. Brainwashing. And if you're not, then you do what you want to do. That's what she's saying.

[video] 30:26 Let's give her the respect and let her speak. Okay, so I do not agree that atheists... have a morality just on their own i know that their morality comes from god they god is giving them the free will to choose that in humanity right now but they will have to answer they will they do there's a stipulation you're right but morality is very contradictory because if what you want to do naturally

30:55 is something that you would do without you being introduced to Christ, then what does it have to do with free will or choosing good and evil? It just makes no sense at all because she admitted That you will do what you want to do unless you're introduced to Christianity or whatever kind of religion or if you grow up in a society which is based on religious values. And most places on earth are being dominated by these religions.

[video] 31:33 not just your own. You are not given that on your own. That's what I have to say. Thank you. Hi. So my reply, my only thing, I guess we were asked if we agree with the conclusion of our side. And I have to disagree that I think that the fact they're suffering has anything to do with whether there's a god or not. I think it's completely irrelevant. I think an argument could always be made that, yes, a god could allow suffering. The reason I think there's no god is I just have not seen tangible, valid evidence to con- Right, exactly.

32:04 Tangible, meaning what you can sense, essentially. Touch.

[video] 32:10 ...include there is a god. So in that sense, concluding that suffering helps show there's no god, I think... Personally is irrelevant.

32:19 It's a pretty long video. I'm going to stop it here if you want me to make a part 2 then let me know but Everything should be clear now The Christians believe that you wouldn't be a moral human being a slave if you wouldn't have been introduced to Christianity or if you wouldn't have grown up in a religious society Meaning that you were brainwashed This is what the people around you taught you. This is what you read in books. This is what the media told you to do. It's not innate. The way you're living your life, it all comes from the outside. And they admit that. They understand what you actually really want to do in this reality.

33:13 And then the atheists follow the same religious values, morals, but they say that... They simply choose to be like that. They want to be good human beings. But do you do what you do in your everyday life because you want to do that or because you're afraid? The Christians are afraid of God and hell. But the atheists are also afraid. They are simply afraid of something else. Different kind of consequences. But the point is that your lives are based on religions. It doesn't matter whether you believe in a god or not. You still follow exactly the same morals, values and beliefs as all of the religious people.

34:14 It doesn't matter what you call yourself if your life is defined by religions. Thanks for watching.