Vegan Mental Illness in NYC
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[video] 0:06 Down with the vegan agenda! Down with the vegan agenda! Yeah! Please not touch me. I mean I'm being raped right now.
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[video] 0:41 Can you not spit on me please? That's disgusting.
[video] 1:05 Please. And don't touch me like that. And stop screaming in my ear. Just move over to the side and no one's gonna do it. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Down with the vegan agenda. Don't pay any attention to the barbarians. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video.
[video] 1:51 Oh, wow. Fuck, this guy keeps pushing. Get paid a dollar to watch a four-minute video. Yeah. Get paid a dollar to watch a four-minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four-minute video. Stay to the side and do what you want to do. Stay to the side and do what you want to do. That's all you got to do. Stay to the side and do what you want to do. You realize we're on public property? Yes, we are too. Okay, so why are you pushing it over there? Get paid a dollar to watch a four-minute video. You don't get to push me. Get paid a dollar to watch a four-minute video. Stop. I mean, we don't have to be on this offer.
[video] 2:25 Get paid a dollar to watch a formative video. Get paid a dollar to watch a formative video. Get paid a dollar to watch a formative video. I'm going to touch you with it. Get paid a dollar to watch a formative video. Get paid a dollar to watch a formative video. Get paid a dollar to watch a formative video. Get paid a dollar to watch a formative video. Just move to the side and do what you want to do. I don't have to. But why are you disrupting? That's all you're doing is disrupting. You're disrupting me. Who's got the table? Who's been here for the last hour? Not you. Get paid a dollar to watch a formative video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. No one's moving.
[video] 3:25 He had multiple sclerosis. That's so cool. Oh, my God. I'm so pissed. And now he doesn't have multiple sclerosis anymore. That's so bad of him. I think that's a huge problem. Get out of here. Feeling bad about yourself? They're not even into it.
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[video] 4:32 he keeps coming over here that's why
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[video] 7:00 Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. Get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video. This is what happens when you go vegan. Mental illness.
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[video] 7:40 Why don't you just tell people why they should be vegan? Thousands of people are gonna watch this. I mean, more people are gonna see this Tell people why they should be vegan.
[video] 7:56 Ignore the Neanderthal. We have a moving video here. We'll pay you a dollar to watch it. Please don't... Ignore the Neanderthal, okay? Who knows what this guy is? Hi, we have a moving four-minute video. Ignore the Neanderthal. We're paying people a dollar to watch it. Thank you.
[video] 8:16 I know people like this. Let's try to interview some people. Obviously, evolution doesn't do it. Want to tell the camera why you should be here? It's the same reason you don't put people on screen. I'm going to finish it in a bit, but I'm just wondering. Does anyone want to tell thousands of people why they should do that? That's basic. There's no one. There's no platform.
[video] 8:49 I'm asking you another question. What do you think about all the slave labor that's producing all your food? Don't even engage the guy.
[video] 9:16 I mean, we're on public property. Do you know what a banana republic is?
[video] 9:34 Yeah. Okay. Nothing. He doesn't have a point. He literally... Do you want to actually... No. Do you want to tell them why they should be vegan? There are people in the world that feel bad for animals. They're too lazy and apathetic. What? He says it all. It's all you are. He's too lazy and apathetic to make a change, but he does feel sympathy for animals. This makes him angry and embarrassed. Ignore the Neanderthal. Okay, well then he's an asshole. It's one of those two options. In all likelihood, it's the first one. If someone's going to say they don't like animals, they probably do. No, I like animals. I don't care what humans are suffering. I don't care about animals. Yeah, this is a weak and fake argument. But he's pretending. But he's pretending there's a false dichotomy.
[video] 10:24 I agree with you. Where are you from, though? He thinks he's American, so he thinks he's a white American. I'm from New York. Well, New York isn't the state of mind. New York isn't the state of mind.
[video] 10:45 He is American, so he thinks that it's like a rich person thing to be vegan. He's desperate and reaching, and he's hoping, he's hoping, he's hoping that he's got nothing. Dude, look at his ass. How the hell did he become a slave guy? He cannot back up what he's saying. Son, if he's smart enough to know that, he knows that cows require more effort, but you're wasting your breath on this. He wants to talk to me. He doesn't believe that, sir. You're wasting your breath. Because it's the cheapest diet that the government wants you to eat.
[video] 11:26 So you can be a better slave. No, the government loves me, you fake piece of shit. They back up Monsanto. The food pyramid is 70% vegan. Powerful four minute video. Ignore the Neanderthal.
[video] 11:45 Ignore the Neanderthals. We'll pay you a dollar to watch it. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government loves Monsanto. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government loves Monsanto. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government loves Monsanto. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes to eat meat. The government likes None of us eat cooked food. You're off, down with the raw agenda. Fucking rich shitheads. Yeah, we're all eating raw food. I got my shitty body. I don't know, maybe you might want to do somewhat then. I mean, this is public property. I'm being respectful. I'm eating my lunch on public property. And I can do it here too. I can eat my lunch wherever I want because this is America.
[video] 12:40 We have the right to eat our lunch wherever we want on public property without getting shouted in our ear and spit on and pushed with people's big soy belts. He's got his mask on. What does his shirt do with the Neanderthals? I don't know. You can't back it up. Look at him. He's around here somewhere. Yeah, yeah.
[video] 13:05 We'll pay you a dollar to watch it. Ignore the barbarians. No, this is public property. Just go to the side and do it over there. You're just a disruptor. That's all you are. Ignore me then. Just move out of the way because we're trying to do something. We're trying to do something important. You're just a disruptor. That's all you are. Just go over there and say it over there. No, don't tell me what to do. Don't disrupt us. You don't own this. You don't own this street. It doesn't matter. Learn the law. You're just a disruptor. That's all you are. Just a disrupter. Hi, ignore the barbarian. We have a powerful four-minute video. Paying people a dollar to watch a video. Don't be vegan, it'll ruin your health. Powerful four-minute video. We'll pay you a dollar to watch it. Ignore the Neanderthal. That's an embarrassing question. Ignore the Neanderthal. You should get adequate protein.
[video] 14:03 So I was a vegan for like two years, but it didn't work. That's not dangerous? No, not at all. I mean, it reversed all my symptoms. I mean, that's what reversed all my symptoms.
[video] 14:24 I was even doing the cook first, you know, but it didn't do much. You know, it didn't do much, but the symptoms. But once I started this, I needed raw liver and raw kidney and all that. Well, in three months, no lie, in three months, we're going away. I was able to drive again. I was able to work out again. I hardly eat fruits and vegetables because fruits and vegetables, they're living things. What are you gonna do when somebody comes up to you? You're gonna protect yourself, right? That's the same thing that plants do. They have anti-nutrients.
[video] 15:06 to protect themselves. So I limit. I think it's food violence. You don't have to go 100%, you know. No, I eat fruits and vegetables, but limited. Not like every day on portion, you know, on some. I'm sorry for the ignorance, but. No, no, no, no. What's MS? Multiple sclerosis. Multiple sclerosis. And that is when your body attacks itself, it attacks the nervous system, it attacks the allegiance in the brain, And then all of a sudden, it messed up the myelin sheath, which is what protects the neurons around the cells in the brain. So all of a sudden, you get all different, people get different kinds of symptoms. There was a woman that couldn't walk. She said her pain don't die. She's been able to get out from the wheelchair. It really is. This guy hasn't said anything. I'm the only one that's been harassed. Yeah, so that's what multiple sclerosis is.
[video] 16:09 And in three months, I was able to feel better. Raw meat is no good. Yeah, except shouting in my ear. Or on public property. Have you seen what vegans do? They run into restaurants and start shouting at people, calling them murderers for eating meat. The first day I came here, I talked to the guy, that guy, I talked to him. He told me that. The very first day I was here.
[video] 16:45 So he supports people going into private restaurants and shouting and not leaving their total private property, but he won't let me stand here on public property eating my lunch, not screaming at anybody without getting arrested. But he supports people in private establishments being yelled at and called murderers. So he does not have a right to do that. Why don't you get out of here?
[video] 17:09 he doesn't want to
[video] 17:31 No, it's just
[video] 17:46 I don't need people knowing for me. No, it's bad for you. Why is it bad for you?
[video] 18:07 Well, tell me why it's good for you. It's bad for you because it's natural for us to eat meat. Like, we're made to eat meat. There's never been a human being outside of civilization that didn't eat meat. Not one. Name one. Name one human being outside of civilization. We're on this point right now. No, I'm talking to her right now. name one person outside of civilization? Hold on, I want an answer. I'm going to give you an answer. Okay. You told me that there's people outside of civilization. Okay, who are the people? Yes, exactly. Everything that comes with civilization is bad, including veganism. No, I have the answer for you. What are your answers? We don't have veganism. I can't, I mean, there's people talking at me. I'm debating which I'm talking to.
[video] 19:06 But who am I talking to right now, him or him? Just for one second. Our body reacts to any animal products, not just meat.
[video] 19:15 The biggest cause for osteoporosis, the bone disease, is eating cheese. There's no proof of that.
[video] 19:39 MrMilchar at gmail.com. MrMilchar? Yeah. M-R-M-I-L-K-J-A-R at gmail.com. I don't want to change your opinion. I just wanted to... I don't want to change your opinion, though. Before I speak, I want to mention how much I love you. Before I speak to you, I have a problem here. I have a hard time. So when I speak tonight, get to the point. All right, just get to the point. Beans for the win. Don't be a bastard. I don't know. I mean, you've been standing here for like 10 minutes and you haven't gotten to the point yet. I mean, you've been telling me what to do all day. You've been telling me go here, go here.
[video] 20:22 I don't work for this one. I'm not for this one. Well, you've been telling me what to do all day. You've been telling me what to do all day. So don't blame me for this. You told me like 10 times. I don't even know this guy. Have you been telling me what to do? Have you been telling me what to do? He's been suggesting that you move.
[video] 20:44 You've been rude to me. You've been rude to me. You've been telling me what to do. I'm not this guy, man. I'm talking to you little punk. I'm talking to you. I'm not trying to be tough. I'm not trying to be tough. Oh, yeah, you are. You're failing, but you're trying. All right, I'm done. I don't think this is going to work. Yeah, you are. You're not that badass.
[video] 21:14 See how violent vegans are? You have nothing. But he has nothing. No one's been violent. No one's been violent. You're rude. You've been telling me to go away from there all day. This is public property. I can go wherever I want. So don't tell me where to go. You don't even know. You know nothing. You just want to know something. I'm trying to tell you this. I've had enough folks talking with me. I know. I know. I really like him. I know. This guy's going to keep going. He's going to keep doing his own thing. He's a fucking idiot, man. It doesn't even make sense.
[video] 21:56 I don't know. Okay, and then what's your point? He has no point. He has no point. He's just a disruptor. It's all he's trying to do. He has no message. All he's trying to do is just basically cause a scene. What is Razor Clan? It's a shellfish.
[video] 22:11 Wow, this is amazing. What's the name of it? Razor clam.
[video] 22:37 Raise a clam. Raise a clam. I'm curious to know why you have a whole fucking head in your head. Only because this is what I eat for like dinner or whatever. On a regular day. On a regular day. I don't believe that. So he doesn't eat a head every day. Not every day because then that would be too expensive. He eats the whole animal. And by the way, that's why he's asking for publicity. Because he's American. And there's this myth that you have to have like a tiny wing. So he's grasping. He's opening it. All the time?
[video] 23:16 I only eat once a day. Wow, this is amazing. I only eat once a day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To implement into my fasting diet. Do you believe in fasting? I think fasting is very good for the health. And some day I'm fasting like I do once a day or whatever. Skipping at least one or two meals a day. I think it's very beneficial. I love it. That's intense though.
[video] 23:51 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's good too. Listen, I don't know. I used to eat meat. I'm not saying like... Yeah, I'm not. I don't care. If you guys eat meat, then go for it. That's what you... That's your prerogative. I'm not one of those people that's going to be like... This is what I'm trying to do. This is what I'm trying to do. carbon tax wants to be implemented. But what I'm trying to say to you, the point I'm trying to tell you, you can make your point by not standing in front of it. By standing on the side, if you quote. We are standing on the side. It's going to be civilized. Well, no, you're a lot easier to speak to than he is. Being civilized is respecting the fact that we're on public property and that you can't harass people for eating their lunch and holding a sign.
[video] 24:49 That's being civilized. Pushing people with your soy belly and yelling in their ear and spitting on them is not civilized. Okay, let me tell you. English is your language. It's not my language. And my language is more than 20,000 years. English language is not more than 600 years. You understand that? Therefore, therefore, therefore, for you not to understand the definition of civilized, you're not even a dumb, stupid fool. A civilized, the definition of civilized is different from a real definition of civilized. Don't look at this show right now. Pushing people with your big soy belly, spitting on them, and shouting in their ear because you don't like what they're eating is not civilized. He was doing it.
[video] 25:36 Because I was eating my lunch on public. You're a disruptor. All you are is a disruptor. You're not doing anything other than disrupting. That's all you do. Why don't you, why don't you just, why don't you, why don't you be a man and just kind of, why don't you just be a man? The first time, the first time I was here. Why don't you do that? You can't do that. If you can't do that, you can just stay away from it. You're done with that? I'm done, right? That's it? No, you just scrape that out with like your thumb. That's why I do it with you. Just like push it out with your thumb like this. I'm done. Yeah, I put it here. How much that cost? Uh, like 12 bucks a pound. Wow, they're powerful for a video. Citarella. Oh, yeah, see, that's what I call it. Wait, see, actually, I guess. I mean, I don't want to see you do it. The camera wants to see you do it, right? Camera?
[video] 26:33 Just hold it for me right here. Oh, shit. I can't. I'm good. It was nice meeting you guys. Be safe, enjoy. Okay, so what's the point? This is the brain. Okay, you're the brain. Okay, so what? Okay, so what's the point? Where's it going? Yeah, but what's the point, though? Powerful 4-minute video. Okay, but what's your point? Powerful 4-minute video. Can't you do that over there? Sorry, big man. Can't you do that over there? Stop telling people where to go. Are you vegan? I'm not vegan. I'm nature indefinable. What are you telling us to do? Why are you telling people what to do? I'm nature indefinable. Ask me a question. I'm not a vegan. I'll tell you what I am. I'm nature indefinable. Can I get some brain? Yeah. Did I answer your question? What?
[video] 27:31 You ask me that question, I ask you. I'm nature indefinable. I'm not going to come and tell you guys. You know what that means? I hear you, I hear you. That's what I'm talking about. I don't think your brain is mature enough to know the definition. Nature indefinable. That's very good. That's from Honest Chop. Honest Chop.
[video] 27:48 You can't even understand the language that you were born and raised. It's a shame. That's very big fucking shame. Hold on, this guy, he made me open to a conversation. Are you open to a conversation? I've watched your video.
[video] 28:05 So, what makes you eat meat, I guess? Well, you're supposed to eat meat. Every single human on Earth that's ever existed that hasn't been a part of some sort of civilization, which is just a form of slavery, every single one of them has eaten meat. Yeah. You can't point to one natural human because a civilized human that lives in civilization is not a natural human. That's a domesticated person. Every single non-domesticated person that's ever existed has eaten meat. Period.
[video] 28:39 yeah what about cannibalism for example like would you be for that because i think like a lot of i don't care i don't care what people do so so you would have no moral objection to that for example like i i don't know i'll have a moral objection if someone tries to cannibalize someone i care about so it's more like um what's what's morals what's good for me and my friends kind of like well for me what's moral is not harming other people But if other people are harming other people that I have nothing to do with, or have certain customs in their tribe that I don't agree with, I'm not going to interfere. Like today, how many babies got their penis mutilated in Brooklyn and had their blood sucked out by a rabbi? Why should I get involved with that? That's them. They can do that. Why do we have this need in modern society to go around telling people who are their own people how to live their lives? I think that's disgusting and horrible.
[video] 29:39 They can do it to their own children if they want. I don't care. I think it comes from more philosophy where a lot of people believe that morality in some sense is objective. Are you familiar with Sam Harris, for example? No. He's one of the big atheists, like the four horsemen, like Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Daniel Dennett, and the late Christopher Hitchens. So he talks about morality as being, like if you have two universes, right? One with as much suffering as you can imagine and one with less. The moral thing is to choose the universe with less suffering. So from there, we make moral decisions based upon what creates a world of less suffering. So to someone who does go into the community and say, hey, I think it's wrong to circumcise a baby, or in this case, you know, not eating meat, right? We're saying, we're trying to create a world of less suffering. Well, what if you're wrong? What if you're creating a world of more suffering? Well, you can never...
[video] 30:39 I think you're creating a world of more suffering. Why do you think it creates more suffering? I mean, first of all, there's the health aspect, but let's forget the health aspect. We can go into just the food production. You claim less suffering to animals is good. Do you know what a banana republic is, for example? Yeah, more or less. What do you think a banana republic is? A poor economy that's controlled by a dictator, and they produce probably cheap agricultural goods. Do the people in those countries suffer? most definitely probably yes unless you're in the elite they suffer to a point you can't imagine and they have you know guerrilla armies hired by you know dull banana company or whatever and you know this is everything that's feeding you your vegan food This is where it's all coming from.
[video] 31:36 Whenever you go in there, it's all Mexico, Colombia, Honduras. It's all coming from those people who are farming your food. First of all, they're not getting paid well at all. Their lives are shit. They're getting poisoned by pesticides all day long. A million people in Argentina, a million people got cancer because of the pesticides. from growing all these plants. So for example, when you eat meat, these animals are obviously crops. Do you make sure that the crops grow? I only eat animals that are grass-fed. What about ones from third world countries? I only get local food. Except when I'm getting plant food. The only time I don't eat local food is when I'm eating a plant.
[video] 32:23 because you can't get it you can't be vegan in new york two months from now locally unless you're getting your food shipped in that was grown by third world slaves that are getting pesticide poisoning there's no way well i get my food locally from upstate, and I have friends that also in Brooklyn that grow. What are you gonna do in January? Where are you gonna get your food? Well, California. Most of the time when I get food, I make sure I check the label, because I know what you're talking about. I know what you're talking about, food from Mexico. And who's farming the food in California? Not those from Mexico. Yeah, it's Mexicans. Are you sure? Is everyone in California farming? All the farms in California, like the big farms, it's all Mexicans. That's a fact. Basically, yeah. And they're treated like shit. They're surrounded by pesticides all day.
[video] 33:21 They're touching these pesticide fruits all day. And it's going into their skin. They're getting sick. That's the big part. And they're like slaves. It's like a very horrible form of slavery they're under. I agree with you. And it's all to feed people's need for a vegan diet. I agree with you. To some extent. If we were to have a natural diet in New York with local food, you'd be eating meat. you know, three quarters of the year, meat and dairy. See, but personally, I'm not convinced that that would create a world of less suffering. I agree with you that there are issues in agriculture, both on both sides. How would that create more suffering for humans? So, for example, I don't think all people who work on farms are exploited. Some of them, their jobs and their jobs... All people who work in farms... that give the food to that store right there are exploited. So what about stuff like Burger King or KFC? Horrible.
[video] 34:21 The only way you're going to get plant foods in the city that aren't based on exploitation and suffering is to go to that farmer's market right there. That's the only way. But how many vegans are doing that? I'm doing that. But two wrongs don't make a right. There's no two wrongs. It's not a wrong to do what's natural to humans. Well, to me, that would be a naturalistic fallacy. I don't care. You don't care. You can call it a fallacy. I want to hear something other than that. Okay, so I'll explain to you. I'll explain to you. So, what I care about are the consequences to sentient beings, not whether something is natural or not. So something could be natural, but not... So, like, it's probably a cliche, but if you took rape as an example, right? That occurs both in human and non-human species. It has occurred...
[video] 35:20 since as long as there's been humans, but we don't say it's good. The reason we say it's bad is because it harms the person who's being raped. And the same way when we eat meat, we're harming the animal who's being killed. Civilization harms the person that's living in it. Of course, but we have to deal with that part too. And you can't have veganism without civilization. Under civilization, everyone is suffering. You're a slave. You work so you can pay taxes. Every single time you spend money, you pay taxes, you're a slave. You're not a human. You're just a... Sweet eaters. Exactly. And if you're living in civilization, you're a slave. You can't be vegan without civilization. And not only are you a slave, you're contributing to people being enslaved under much worse conditions than even you are. And your system is destroying the environment. Civilization is probably going to destroy the world. Well, that's if you support big companies and buy from them.
[video] 36:20 I think civilization isn't that positive. Because you just said if you buy from local farmers. But you're going to be able to buy from them in January if you want to be vegan.
[video] 36:32 So you'll be able to have that? Yes, because it's year-round. Local year-round, never stops.
[video] 36:40 Freshly butchered every day. Local. 90% of my diet is local year round. And you're sure of that? 100%. I only eat 90% of my diet is meat and dairy. My meat comes from upstate, all of it. My dairy comes from Pennsylvania. And my, what's it called? My fish comes from the Atlantic Ocean. Matter of fact, we get the lamb ourselves. And I'm saying yours.
[video] 37:12 So, for example, do you care at all about the treatment of the animals? Our animals are treated exquisitely. So you would agree with us that at least factory farming is wrong? I don't care. I wouldn't eat that animal. And I think it's destroying the environment. I don't care about the animals. So you don't care about an animal at all? I care so much about humans that I don't have enough care for the animal. I don't give a shit. Because humans are suffering so much. So do you believe in the power of human reason? Or are you... I believe in instinct. So in your ideal world, we would get rid of the civilization, we would live as nomads, and... I would like to live as a nomad, because that's my ancestral heritage. But not everyone... He used to live as a nomad. Not all primitive people are nomads.
[video] 38:09 Well, of course, but what I'm trying to get at... That's what I would like to live as, a nomad. Yeah. So do you see, like, truth value in science and philosophy or any of that? I think it's brought us hell. Science has brought us hell. Hell on earth. Fukushima's still melting down. But do you think that there are any goods that came out of science? No. Like, would you say, for example, a vaccine? Vaccines are probably the worst thing. in the world. When I got my hepatitis B vaccine when I was 15, next day, before that I was completely healthy, next day I was riding my bike, first time in my life I passed out. Came home, had a huge fever, all my problems started after that. IBS, gallstones, I became like half retarded. So do you think it's just that vaccines have side effects, or do you think they don't work at all? Like, do they prevent disease at all? No, they don't. There's no proof that they prevent disease.
[video] 39:07 So, like, what about polio? Like, I mean, I'm pretty sure there are more instances of polio. Polio went up after the vaccine started. So what brought it back down? Or did it not go back down? What brought it back? What brought polio back down? Or is polio... It naturally went down. I mean, what brought the plague back down? Not a vaccine. Things come and go. So you think there was no human intervention that day? Absolutely not. It made it worse. What about my friend's grandfather? He was in one of the videos before, but his grandfather didn't have polio, got the polio vaccine, got polio. And I have the papers on that at home. Maybe I'll put it in this video or something. But if you read the government statistics of polio before and after, they just changed the definition of polio to make it seem like less people have polio. But if you look at the statistics where they didn't change the definition... And it's a big difference.
[video] 40:05 It's just like with Fukushima. They changed, they like fucking quadrupled what a dangerous dose of radiation is. And they're like, we don't have a problem here. That's what they do. So do you think they're people manipulating people and doing conspiracy? Or are they just making a mistake? So you don't think they're well-intentioned? Absolutely not. What do you think they're trying to get out of the public? Depopulation. And why do they want depopulation? because we're too hard to manage there's too many of us why do they need all of us if you're if you're like king of the world why do you need all these people why do you need to like you know convince them of things you know you need to convince them this is good this is bad we need to move in this direction we need to move in that direction we need to make sure there's no revolution we need to make sure these people are fed we need to make sure these people starve to death It's a lot of work. They don't need all these people.
[video] 40:59 So you think the people who are running the CDC, maybe the U.S. government, the U.N., do they want like a North Korea kind of state where they can starve people, put people in hospital? No, they want a brand new world type state. Can you describe that? What would this Brave New World kind of say to you? You haven't read the Brave New World? Well, the Brave New World was written by Albus Huxley. And he was the brother of Julian Huxley, who I think he was the president of UNESCO at the UN. And he... He wrote A Brave New World, and he actually wrote it saying, this is what we're planning. And it was a society in which people are born in test tubes. They're born with their entire life mapped out for them, like the jobs they're going to do when they grow up, when they're going to be, you know... the elder, whatever, when it's time for them to die, what they're going to eat. Like, every single aspect of life is mapped out for them.
[video] 41:58 There's no questions. They're given a drug called Soma, which keeps them happy. And they're just happy doing whatever the masters want them to do. And, you know, they don't have to worry about, you know, tweaking society every time there's a problem. They don't have to worry about the unexpected. You know, they want to just sit back and relax. They want to stop managing the hurt And of course they do. Why would they want to use all this energy? They spent so much energy on us. And they don't need us to serve them. If you don't mind me asking, is that tobacco? So, for example, I know tobacco is a product that a lot of people believe is unhealthy. Do you agree with that? Yeah, it's unhealthy. But the... All the studies that are done on tobacco that show you how unhealthy it is aren't done on tobacco.
[video] 42:57 They're done on, you know, they're done on a cigarette that's half tobacco. It's GMO, first of all. Soaked in pesticides. There's like rat poison in it. There's fiberglass. You got a filter on it where the fibers go into your lungs and never leave. So yeah, I think smoking natural tobacco is bad for you, but not nearly as bad as... Not nearly as bad as commercial cigarettes, which is just literally as poisonous. So I don't think anyone should smoke. I don't care. I'm not a health nutter or anything. I cured myself. I'm good now. I still eat raw milk and drink raw dairy because that's what I still enjoy. But, you know, I don't really have rules. I just do what I want. So just for me to understand kind of your world viewpoint, do you kind of want to see a world where people kind of stick to themselves, live a more basic life, you know, less bureaucracy, less corporations, less government?
[video] 43:56 I want there to be, I don't want less. I want there to be no civilization, period. Would you describe yourself as an anarchist? Or a primitivist?
[video] 44:08 Because I still believe in tribes making their own rules. I don't believe in, you know, an anarchist that's meaningless. You have anarcho-communist, you have anarcho-capitalist, you have anarcho... People just use anarchist, like, I'm a communist, but I want to be cool, so I'm going to add anarcho to the front. Or I'm a capitalist, but I want to be cool, so I just add anarcho. But it's like a totally meaningless, absurd title. If you don't mind me asking, how do you live your life? How do you make a living? What do you do for work? Do you live in New York City? I'm a slave of the system. We can leave it at that. I'm saving money right now so I can maybe not be. Do you want to move out to a remote part of the country? I want to move out. I want to never see a computer again. I want to not have electricity. But it takes a lot of work to get to that point.
[video] 45:09 You can't, like, in the system, like, you know, all the land, you know how much free land there is in this country with nothing on it? We can't go on it because now it's Agenda 21 Greenland. Try to build a cabin in the woods where no one is, um... You know, no one's living there. But we're not allowed to live there because they want to hurt us in the cities so we can be slaves to society using money, paying taxes. Who's they? Like the government? Like Congress? Or you mean like... The government, NGOs. As far as all this Agenda 21 stuff with us not allowed to just take some land that no one's using and start living on it, that's mainly coming out of the U.N.
[video] 45:53 And we're signed on to it, so our government's contributing to it too. But none of this is going to change. The only thing that's going to save the world is... What I'm waiting for is the...
[video] 46:06 is the cyber warfare apocalypse, which is, you know, our government, they basically structured our entire civilization around computers and everything runs on computers, but the government has made it so that it's not secure. They specifically made it so it's not secure so they can spy on anyone. And our system is so insecure right now, like any first world country can hit a button and destroy any country's entire power. That's how insecure we are right now. And at any point, like this, the Pentagon gets hacked into every day. you know, the power grids that run everything, get hacked into every day, but no one shuts it down because, and it's only a matter of time until someone does. And the reason it's not happening is because these hackers that have that ability to do that, they'd rather make money
[video] 47:05 off of their skills and live a great life. They don't want to just shut everything down and hurt their families. Their families are not that good when they do it. But one day, someone might slip through the cracks. You know, maybe he took a little too much acid and he doesn't give a fuck anymore. He's going to take the whole thing down. Maybe that'll save us. Or maybe we'll have another Carrington event coming from the sun. Solar flare, electromagnetic pulse is going to wipe out all the electronics on Earth. But, you know, we're not going to change this Agenda 21 stuff. We're not going to change this carbon tax stuff. Like, nothing's going to change. Like, it's over. But something might destroy the whole system. Do you see? I mean, I don't know. And hopefully I'm not still in the system when that happens. But I'd be okay with it because then the Earth might still survive.
[video] 48:02 From my perspective, I agree with you that there are lots of problems in this world and in our civilization. But I think that our civilization has helped people and has tremendous potential to help more people. It's helped the people that are collecting your taxes. Well, but I think it also helps, you know, someone because, you know, they're not going to get their head bashed in with a rock like a primitive person. That happened much, there was much less murder in primitive times. Much more. Well, I could agree with you. There was less... There wasn't, like, large-scale war, but I think interpersonal violence... No, even interpersonally. Weston A. Price. You know who Weston A. Price is? You should look into him. He went around the world and studied primitive tribes, trying to look for who the healthiest people were. The main point he found is that...
[video] 48:55 the main point he found was that uh basically meat diets mainly those that are the most meat and the most raw meat are the healthiest that's the main point he also found that primitive tribes had absolutely no crime they had none they didn't have prisons they didn't need prisons once in a while someone would do something it was very rare it's not like today people kill each other now for money
[video] 49:24 Why are people killing each other today? It's the drug war. That's probably the main cause of murder in America, is the drug war. Because people are killing each other over the crack they're selling or whatever, and it's all for money. Who else is getting killed? The people we're bombing. And then it's the people who come here and bomb us, because they're mad they got bombed. And it's all stuff that wouldn't exist without civilization. Well what about getting more down to, so I mean I'm a believer in science and so in evolution there's this idea there are finite resources and as organisms we compete for those finite resources and that's where I would say violence really comes from. So whether you have money or not there's still a finite source. That existed. That existed. But it always existed. Violence is natural. Like, you know, wolves fight with each other over the top spot. Rams ram each other in the head, kill each other.
[video] 50:23 Like, animals in their own species kill each other. It's like a part of life. And it's a part of life that people are missing. It's like, why do you think people are going to all these football games to watch these giant men smash into each other? Why do you think they're playing these video games all day? Killing, killing, killing. It's because it's a part of us. And I'd rather have that than have no freedom in my life. I'd rather live my life till 30 with freedom and with health than live like this in a fake world where I'm a slave, paying taxes, breathing shit air, eating food. The milk I drink is illegal. I'm not even allowed to drink the milk I want. So... I have to work so hard.
[video] 51:17 In this world, you're not free. But we have freedom. Well, we have so many civilizations in this world that you can choose to live in. What's a good civilization? Well, personally, I like this one that I live in. I like the United States. Plato doesn't like it? The people in Libya, whose entire country got destroyed. The people in Syria, whose entire country got destroyed. The people in Iraq, whose entire country got destroyed. The people in Mexico, who are living as slaves. touching pesticides all day and dying from cancer. There's all sorts of people that don't like the civilization that you're living in. All the people that are in prison, the biggest prison country in the entire world, America. So this is the society you like? You like giving a third of all your earnings So to pay for the system that's enslaving you? I don't know how you like that.
[video] 52:15 Also, my approach is that we look at these problems and we figure out how to address them and we don't address them. This is why civilization exists. So the elites can parasite off of us. But I think we have improved as a society. No, we haven't. Or worse than ever. If you look at feudal Europe, right? I mean, now we're looking at a larger time span. Feudal Europe was better. The American Revolution was over like a 2% tax. That was like what the American Revolution was, about 2%. In feudal times, it wasn't much. In feudal times, you gave maybe like 10% of what you grew to the king. and you had healthy food, you know, you were fine, generally. Now, it's 30%, your food is poisoned, your air is poisoned, your water's poisoned, your government's killing people, and then the people you're killing come here as refugees and kill us, and it's just shit!
[video] 53:12 So, I don't know, like, you think that like in medieval Europe where people, like, do they have access to better nutrition or what? Like, I'm not sure that... It was bad too. It's all bad. All civilization is bad. But at least their civilization isn't destroying the entire planet. At least their civilization didn't lead to the entire Pacific Ocean being full of radiation. at least their civilization, didn't put thousands of ticking time bomb nuclear reactors all over the planet that are just waiting to... You know how long it's going to take for the radiation from Fukushima to heal? We're destroying the entire planet. All the genetically modified seeds, they're cross-pollinating with the natural seeds. We're not going to be able to get rid of them. We're destroying the planet. I would say all engineering is a science of trade-offs.
[video] 54:12 Why trade-offs? Why not just be natural? Why not just be healthy? Why not just be free? What's wrong with freedom? Well, because there's a trade-off there whether we acknowledge it or not. If I live in a... If I don't have civilization, there are less options. You're domesticated. Why do you like being domesticated? Well, I wouldn't refer to myself as domesticated. You are domesticated. You're vegan. Well, I mean, I guess it depends on your definition of terms, but my definition of domesticated is probably different from... Well, you pay your taxes, right? Yes, but I wouldn't put... Well, you're domesticated. If paying taxes means domesticated, then that means I'm domesticated. You don't have any of your natural instincts anymore. If you had your natural instincts, if a cop came up to you because you were, you know, smoking a plant they don't like. Like cannabis. Yeah.
[video] 55:07 And they try to put you in a fucking car and kidnap you, your natural instinct is to fucking claw their eyes out. But what are you going to do? You're going to go, okay, and I'm going to do the same thing because I don't want to be killed. Because I know what reality is. But I'm domesticated. I know I am. And you are too. And we're all domesticated. Because I pay my taxes. I fucking stop for the police when they want me to.
[video] 55:37 So I'm sympathetic to what you're saying. That's the definition of domesticated. It's when your masters tell you the rules and you follow them. Well, we all have masters, whether there's a civilization or not. Primitive people did not have masters. Their only master was nature. Well, your master is also the person who's most powerful in your social group. If you piss off the wrong person in your social group, you're going to get a rock smashing. Primitive tribes used to kill people. Like, if their leader got a little bit too out of hand, they just killed them. They didn't let that shit happen. But what if your family didn't like you? What if your family or your tribe doesn't like you? They didn't have these problems. They don't have all these different cultural things like, oh, I'm gay now and my family doesn't like me. Like, they didn't have that. They didn't have like, oh, I'm a Republican and my dad's a liberal and we don't like each other. Or, you know, they don't have this stupid bullshit. Well, they didn't have those problems, but they had problems. They didn't have any problems like that. They were all the same.
[video] 56:37 They had their own culture. You look at it, you look at the historical evidence, they didn't have these problems. But what is the historical evidence, right? Because we don't have... Weston A. Price is good. William R. Stephenson. Well, where are they getting their evidence from? They went to the primitive tribes that are living the same way they lived for thousands of years. And there's still tribes in the Amazon living the same way they did for thousands of years. They don't speak any modern languages. They're uncontacted. People can visit them today and you can see what their life is like. I'm good. So you think that they don't have problems or you think that their problems are trivial? What? You think that they don't have problems or you think their problems are trivial? From what I can see, they don't have problems. Like none whatsoever? Based on historical evidence, yeah. So you think that, for example, if you were going to go to a primitive tribe, there'd be no social dynamics within that tribe that would lead to detention or theft or...
[video] 57:36 I did not see it based on historical evidence. It's very, very minimal. Very minimal. Within the tribe. There was intertribal warfare. And, you know, sometimes people in a tribe fight, but it's like, it's nothing compared to what we have today. And I think it's natural. All animals, they fight with each other. Not all animals, but... A lot of animals do, and that's just nature. It's fighting, like, violence is a part of nature. And people crave it. That's why you have football and MMA and boxing and mosh pits. That's why we have all these stuff, because you can't take it out of us until, you know, they fed us so much soy, it'll probably be gone eventually. But it's really hard to take out of us. And it makes you feel it's good. You know, people die, but it's good. The way that it used to be is good.
[video] 58:34 Not fucking war, millions of people slaughtered, depleted uranium, nuclear bombs. That's not good. But what about the good things that our civilization produces? There's nothing good. You think there's nothing good? You think, you know, our great, our understanding of the universe, to be able to stare at the cosmos and to both ask questions and try and answer those questions, to be able to have our... To be able to free ourselves from just the day-to-day of putting food in our mouth and just trying to survive. Because to me, the day-to-day of a primitive person, that's not inspiring. I mean, it's inspiring to me. But what about the primitive person who may lay on the grass, look outside the atmosphere and say, I wonder what that is and I wonder if I can go there one day. And they went and they progressed our society to a place where we could do that. Why do you want to? Why do you care? Why do you...
[video] 59:28 So you're willing to have all this destruction we see around us, all this suffering, all this slavery, all this misery, just so we can know what's going on up there and who the fuck knows if what they're telling you is true. Well, because there was suffering and death in this primitive world. Nothing like what we have today. And they weren't destroying the planet. And they had freedom, which is the most important thing. There's nothing more important than freedom. We have a vegan movement because we don't want to destroy the planet. We're trying to live... Well, you're destroying it. Well, I think you are too. How am I destroying it? When you... So, I mean... So this gets to a problem where we're coming to very different philosophical grounds. Explain how I'm exploring the environment. So if we go back to ecology, right? The closer you are to the sun, the more energy efficient you are. That's why there are more autotropes. So autotropes are organisms that synthesize energy. So we have two examples of them.
[video] 1:00:26 We have photosynthesis, which is what occurs on the surface of the planet, but in the troughs of the ocean we have chemosynthesis. So you're doing synthesis off of the chemicals that are coming off of here. That is where you can have the most number of organisms. Where you have the least is apex predators. So your bald eagle, your bear, the reason that there are less of them is because there's less energy to go around. Because when an organism consumes something, they expend energy in order to sustain their own life. So as a human, by going to, by eating autotrophs, so in our example, plants, We're more efficiently using energy than if we were to eat other animals. There's no proof of that. You're just making it up. I'm not making it up. You can see that in an ecological textbook. I know you're saying you don't trust those kind of things. Are you saying it's healthier to be vegan? Well, that's not what I'm saying now, but I do believe it's healthier to be vegan. So what are you saying now?
[video] 1:01:24 What I'm saying now is that from an energy efficiency standpoint... Why do we need energy efficiency? Because energy efficiency... means that we can use less land and we can save the planet. Why do you need to use less land? So we can let some of it go back to nature. What? You mean cows grazing on a field as in nature? Well, so what I'm trying to get at is the cow is eating the grass, they're eating the plants, and we should be eating the plants as well. Why should we be eating the plants as well? So we're more energy efficient. Energy doesn't go anywhere. We shit it out, it goes back into the ground. The energy doesn't just disappear. Nothing disappears. Everything goes back into the earth and cycles back through all these cycles over and over again. Nothing ever goes anywhere. Well, of course, there's still energy. The energy itself didn't disappear, but in order for energy to be accessible, it has to be synthesized.
[video] 1:02:24 The most accessible energy is shit. When you shit and it goes into the ground, that's the most accessible energy. Well, if there's glucose or fat still in that shit, then yes, then there's energy in that shit. But it is. There's always, whatever you're eating, shit is just what your body didn't have time to digest. It's what your body pre-digested so that the earth can digest it too. That's why your body doesn't digest everything so it can go back in. So, yes, but that shit is coming from the food that you ate, which is the plant which did photosynthesis. Exactly, and it's going back in. Everything always goes back in. Yeah, so stay close to the energy source. It doesn't matter. No matter what you do, it's always going to go back to where it came from. So how do you explain... Everything goes back down. No matter who's eating what, it comes out of their ass and goes back down. How would you explain the population differences between, let's say, apex predators versus autotrophs? Why does that matter?
[video] 1:03:25 Because we're trying to understand what's happening. That's how it's supposed to be. That's the balance of nature. The balance of nature is less carnivores and more herbivores. And that's because of how energy... That's how it's always been. That's how it's always been. It's always been that way. That is nature. Why do you want to change that? Well, this goes back to what I was talking about, the naturalistic fallacy. But why do you want to change it? Was it broken before? What was broken before? Well, it's not a question of what's broken. It's about what... It's about creating a better world. The best world, it's already here and we're ruining it. The best world is that primitive tribe in the Amazon that still hasn't gotten into all the bullshit that we've gotten into. How do you know it's the best world?
[video] 1:04:19 because there's documentaries about them, you see how they live, and they're not destroying the planet. They don't hurt each other, they don't murder each other, and they're free, they have freedom. How do you know that we're not headed towards a world that's better than the one that we have now and the one that they have? Because things are only going to get worse. How do you know that? Because we're going in a trajectory, because we know what's going to happen next. It's already been all laid out. Everyone's going to be herded into cities. We're going to be paying carbon taxes. We're not going to be allowed to eat meat anymore unless we're super rich. And it's all been mapped out. We're not going to be allowed to live in nature anymore. Our taxes are going to be higher. We're not going to be allowed to have our own cultures anymore. The only culture you're going to be allowed to have is MTV. That's all. You don't think MTV can't go out of business?
[video] 1:05:14 It doesn't matter if it's MTV or if it's VH1 or if it's fucking whatever fucking TV show people watch now. That's the culture now. You're not going to have your own culture. We're going into just degradation and destruction and it's only going to go further. And we know because it's been planned out a long time ago. Everything's gone according to plan until now. And it's going to keep going according to plan until something destroys society. Do you think 200 years ago, people knew that we were going to be living in this world? Yes. If you read Charles Galton Darwin's The Next Million Years, Charles Galton Darwin, who's related to Albus Huxley, who wrote A Brave New World, who is the, I think he's the grandfather of Charles Darwin. He wrote The Next Million Years, I think it was like 200 years ago, and we follow everything he wrote in there came true. Because his family is the scientific elite that's in charge of us now, and you see them in all the positions.
[video] 1:06:14 And it's gone according to plan, and it's gonna go according to plan. And there's nothing any of us are gonna do about it. For example, do you believe poverty is decreasing in the world?
[video] 1:06:25 No. So, how is poverty decreasing? People don't have jobs in America. I've been living in New York basically my whole life. The homeless people are increasing every year. More and more homeless people. I don't need anyone to tell me what's going on. I see it. But what about greater trends in the world? So, for example, China, where they're developing their nation, you don't think they're lifting people out of poverty? No. China's the most miserable country on Earth for a month. It might be the most miserable, but do you think that they're lifting people out of poverty? No. You don't think so? They put everyone into poverty. Mao killed, like, what, 70 million people to put them into this system? Well, Mao might have put people into poverty, but I'm talking about, you know, let's say within the last 50 years. What about the last 50 years? If you have too many kids, they just kill your kid. In China, they have bans.
[video] 1:07:22 and they have everyone's data, they have everyone's blood type and everything, and they have vans that if some high up official needs an organ transplant, they just have this van, they put them in there, and they just cut it out fresh and put it in there. This is the society they're living in. And the UN says China is the model state for the world. Well, I agree with you. There are definitely problems in China. What are you saying then? It's a miserable place. They have nets around their factories so people can't jump out and kill themselves. Do you see the Chinese people that come here? Go to Chinatown. Yes, life sucks to a certain extent. They're like this. They're just like...
[video] 1:08:06 It's like sad. And it's because they're from this shit country. They're not genetically like that.
[video] 1:08:14 So, yes, I agree with you. Life sucks. People die. But what I disagree with you... And it's all civilization's fault. That's where I disagree with you. None of this happened before civilization. You did not see these people you see in Chinatown in primitive societies. Well, yes, because we didn't have Chinatown, but... No, because we didn't have people that lived their whole life on rice. But we had people... And just like one bowl of rice a day at that. We had people living like scavengers, eating rotting food and struggling to stay alive rather than being able to try and better themselves. What's bettering yourself? To be a better slave to society? Well, no. Bettering yourself is your own decision. You as an individual say, here are my goals. What are your goals for me personally? Well... Trying to create a vegan world is one of them. I have selfish goals as well. Creating more money and having a better apartment.
[video] 1:09:10 Being a better producer and consumer. I don't see those. Producing more and consuming more so that your masters can consume more. Because you're domesticated. Just like I am. But, so these are my goals, but just because there's a... They're the goals of a slave.